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Old 12-04-2013, 04:42 PM  
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House Judiciary Committee Discusses Impeachment

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I called the government shutdown and have posted about this before. Apparently only Democratic presidents overstep their executive authority these days.

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History will record that on Tuesday, Dec. 3, 2013, the U.S. House of Representatives Committee on the Judiciary met to consider the impeachment of Barack Hussein Obama.

They didn’t use that word, of course. Republican leaders frown on such labeling because it makes the House majority look, well, crazy.

It is, Rep. Steve King (R-Iowa) said from the dais, “the word that we don’t like to say in this committee, and I’m not about to utter here in this particular hearing.”

One of the majority’s witnesses, Georgetown law professor Nicholas Rosenkranz, encouraged the Republicans not to be so shy. “I don’t think you should be hesitant to speak the word in this room,” he said. “A check on executive lawlessness is impeachment.”

This gave the lawmakers courage. “I’m often asked this,” said Rep. Doug Collins (R-Ga.) “You got to go up there, and you just impeach him.”

Rep. Blake Farenthold (R-Tex.), who has said there are enough votes in the House to impeach Obama, added: “We’ve also talked about the I-word, impeachment, which I don’t think would get past the Senate in the current climate. . . . Is there anything else we can do?”

Why, yes, there is, congressman: You can hold hearings that accomplish nothing but allow you to sound fierce for your most rabid constituents.

The Republicans in the House know there is no chance of throwing this president from office. Yet at least 13 of the 22 Republicans on the panel have threatened or hinted at impeachment of Obama, his appointees or his allies in Congress. They’ve proposed this as the remedy to just about every dispute or political disagreement, from Syria to Obamacare.

Tuesday’s hearing was titled “The President’s Constitutional Duty to Faithfully Execute the Laws.” The unanimous view among Republicans was that Obama had not done his duty, and it’s true that this president has stretched the bounds of executive authority almost as much as his predecessor, whose abuses bothered Republicans much less (and Democrats much more).

But what to do about it? They’ve failed at cutting off funding, they’ve had difficulty suing Obama in court and they lost the 2012 election. That basically leaves them with the option of making loud but ineffectual noises about high crimes and misdemeanors.

In recent days, Rep. Steve Stockman (Tex.), one of the more exotic members of the Republican caucus, has distributed proposed Articles of Impeachment to his colleagues. Last month, 20 House Republicans filed Articles of Impeachment against Attorney General Eric Holder. Around that time, Rep. Michele Bachmann (R-Minn.) accused Obama of “impeachable offenses.”

Rep. Trey Radel (R-Fla.), before his cocaine arrest and guilty plea, invoked the prospect of impeaching Obama over gun policy. Rep. Duncan Hunter (R-Calif.) raised the specter of impeachment over Obama’s threat to bomb Syria without congressional approval. Rep. Kerry Bentivolio (R-Mich.) said it would be his “dream come true” to write the Articles of Impeachment, and Rep. Bill Flores (R-Tex.) said that if “the House had an impeachment vote it would probably impeach the president.”

Sen. Jim Inhofe said Obama could be impeached over the attack on Americans in Benghazi, Libya, while fellow Oklahoma Republican Sen. Tom Coburn said in August that Obama was “getting perilously close” to meeting the standard for impeachment (though he called Obama a “personal friend”). Sen. Tim Scott (R-S.C.) thought it would have been an impeachable offense if Obama unilaterally raised the debt ceiling. Sen. Ted Cruz (R-Tex.) branded Obama “lawless.”

On the House Judiciary panel, impeachment has been floated by GOP Reps. Jason Chaffetz (over Benghazi), Louie Gohmert and King (default on the debt), Darrell Issa (presidential patronage), Trent Franks (Defense of Marriage Act enforcement) and Lamar Smith (who said Obama’s record on immigration comes “awfully close” to violating the oath of office). Rep. Tom Marino (R-Pa.) gets creativity points for proposing the impeachment of Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-Nev.).

At Tuesday’s hearing, the committee chairman, Bob Goodlatte (R-Va.), accused Obama of “picking and choosing which laws to enforce” and of being “the first president since Richard Nixon to ignore a duly enacted law simply because he disagrees with it.”

Contributed Smith: “The president has ignored laws, failed to enforce laws, undermined laws and changed laws, all contrary to the Constitution.”

The majority’s witnesses added to the accusations. George Washington University’s Jonathan Turley said Obama had “claimed the right of the king to essentially stand above the law.”

This excited Franks, who embraced impeachment back in 2011. Obama’s actions, he said, “could be considered royal prerogatives, which is, if my history’s right, what we had that little unpleasantness with Great Britain about.”

Yikes! Why bother with impeachment? They need a revolution.
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Old 12-04-2013, 04:43 PM   #2
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that would be awesome from an entertainment perspective.
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Old 12-04-2013, 04:47 PM   #3
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that would be awesome from an entertainment perspective.
Yes, because rather than modernize outdated programs (e.g., the farm bill), cut unnecessary regulations, prevent ongoing fraud by our financial institutions, and perform other functions of government, the Monkeyhouse should entertain you.

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Old 12-04-2013, 04:50 PM   #4
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Old 12-04-2013, 04:50 PM   #5
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Old 12-04-2013, 04:55 PM   #6
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Actually, there are numerous violations of the Constitution being committed by Obama--not to mention the massive fraud he's committed regarding ACA. He definitely had impeachable behavior. I said the same thing about Bush. It would just be bad politics.
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Old 12-04-2013, 04:57 PM   #7
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Yes, because rather than modernize outdated programs (e.g., the farm bill), cut unnecessary regulations, prevent ongoing fraud by our financial institutions, and perform other functions of government, the Monkeyhouse should entertain you.

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...yeah, as if Obama has only been doing that. Nice spin job.

Even that Constitutional law professor from Georgetown who supports Obamacare noted the violations by Obama and how it is leading to the "uber" executive which is a form of tyranny.
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Old 12-04-2013, 05:04 PM   #8
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It's this guy, Jonathan Turley. I forgot his name.

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While I happen to agree with some of these policies, I have great reservations about this record and its implications for the separation of powers.
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“I was equally concerned about the overall expansion of unchecked presidential authority and the relative decline of legislative power in the modern American system. The recent nonenforcement policies add a particularly menacing element to this pattern. They effectively reduce the legislative process to a series of options for presidential selection ranging from negation to full enforcement. The Framers warned us of such a system and we accept it – either by
acclaim or acquiescence – at our peril.”

And the Democrats in 2006 could have done something to Bush but did NOT.
That's because they salivate at the idea that they can do it next. This is out of control and has been for longer than the last two presidencies.

http://jonathanturley.org/2013/12/03...-federal-laws/
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Old 12-04-2013, 05:09 PM   #9
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It's this guy, Jonathan Turley. I forgot his name.






And the Democrats in 2006 could have done something to Bush but did NOT.
That's because they salivate at the idea that they can do it next. This is out of control and has been for longer than the last two presidencies.

http://jonathanturley.org/2013/12/03...-federal-laws/
Yep. One side doesn't do it because they secretly want have the same power when they are in office. #moralhazard.
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Old 12-05-2013, 08:35 AM   #10
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Are they impeaching him because he's the Anti-Christ?

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Old 12-05-2013, 08:42 AM   #11
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Yep. One side doesn't do it because they secretly want have the same power when they are in office. #moralhazard.
= exactly why Obamacare isn't going anywhere.
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Old 12-05-2013, 08:43 AM   #12
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Old 12-05-2013, 09:23 AM   #13
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If Obama is impeached there will be civil unrest and rioting by blacks and commies.
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Old 12-05-2013, 09:34 AM   #14
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If Obama is impeached there will be civil unrest and rioting by blacks and commies.
isn't that pretty much the status quo anyway?
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Old 12-05-2013, 09:38 AM   #15
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I dunno. Is it? Well, maybe when they don't get their way.
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