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Old 10-03-2012, 07:42 PM  
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who won the presidential debate?

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Old 10-04-2012, 02:43 PM   #361
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Old 10-04-2012, 03:37 PM   #362
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Although I do notice that Direckshun has not voted yet...he must answer poll questions like he answers regular questions...not at all.
This. Friggin coward is afraid to admit that his Dear Leader got curb stomped last night. Had the shoe been on the other foot, he would have had a poll open at 10:05pm. Lube in one hand, pic of Barry in the other. We all know it is true, the bleeding hypocritical vagoo that heshe is...
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Old 10-04-2012, 03:42 PM   #363
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I find the $5 trillion tax cut argument funny in this regard. Romney has said he intends to raise taxes by closing loopholes as part of an overall strategy to broaden the pool of taxpayers and increase economic growth.

I was really hoping Romney would point out to Obama last night that the "Clinton" tax increase he loves so much (and mistakenly claims is responsible for the balanced budget and economic growth of the late 90's) was overcome with the tax cuts he enacted in 1997. What happened? You got more revenue from the tax. Obama really doesn't seem to understand the concept that taking capital out of the markets = slower growth = less jobs = less tax revenue. It's almost laughable.
It is laughable...Jusst like the 5 people here who said Obama won the debate last night.
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Old 10-04-2012, 03:47 PM   #364
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Old 10-04-2012, 03:57 PM   #365
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As far as the OP, Barry was taken out behind the woodshed last night.

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Old 10-04-2012, 04:14 PM   #366
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Of course Romney won the debate. It was obvious.

A couple of thoughts on the debate:

First, I loved the format. Let the two candidates debate, point/counterpoint like they did was great. The timed responses, etc. is nothing but prepared rhetoric vs. prepared rhetoric.

Second, Obama had an impossible position. For the first time, ever, he was forced to defend things he's done. He's never had to do that and the crap situation this country is in, is indefensible.

I anxiously await the Biden/Ryan debate. It's going to make yesterday look like an actual close debate.
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Old 10-04-2012, 04:15 PM   #367
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I'm arguing that he's a pragmatic conservative. He has never been as far right extreme conservative as your side has tried to paint him and he didn't move to the center last night. He was pragmatic conservative during the primaries and he was pragmatic conservative last night.
So you'll admit he has not presented consistent views.
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Old 10-04-2012, 04:29 PM   #368
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Although I do notice that Direckshun has not voted yet...he must answer poll questions like he answers regular questions...not at all.
Its typical and shows he and those like him (jensen go bowe... etc..) all have one thing in common:

They would rather be RIGHT than actually have a dialogue...Basically it is a one way street with these kinds of people,
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Old 10-04-2012, 04:32 PM   #369
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So you'll admit he has not presented consistent views.
No. He's been consistent. He's the same guy I supported in 2008 and the same guy I supported in the primaries earlier this year. He's not the same guy as the fictional character that your thought leaders have tried to paint him as and that you apparently believed he was though.
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Old 10-04-2012, 04:48 PM   #370
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No. He's been consistent. He's the same guy I supported in 2008 and the same guy I supported in the primaries earlier this year. He's not the same guy as the fictional character that your thought leaders have tried to paint him as and that you apparently believed he was though.
This is the very issue the Obama campaign has to understand. They have worked overtime to create the Romney they want to run against. And the Romney they are running against is not that person. It has to hurt to realize reality may be the greatest threat Obama faces. Direck and his peers are dying trying to repaint the picture. Desperately wanting to say Romney changed. When in fact, Romney didn't change. What changed is they were shown to be wrong.
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Romney. Obama had tons of opportunities to slam Romney down and never took advantage. He was very meh. Romney did on occassion seem like a cornered animal, at least in the early going but he got a few "zingers" in and was more animated. I think it played better overall. I don't think he really won a lot of votes here but I could see him gaining a few points. I think it'd be almost impossible for him not to gain points with how far he's been behind. The real challeng for Obama now is that the next debate is the VP on and I'm betting Ryan wins that one too. You'll see Obama with a little more fire the next debate. If he doesn't, he'll let Romney back in the race.
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Romney. Obama had tons of opportunities to slam Romney down and never took advantage. He was very meh. Romney did on occassion seem like a cornered animal, at least in the early going but he got a few "zingers" in and was more animated. I think it played better overall. I don't think he really won a lot of votes here but I could see him gaining a few points. I think it'd be almost impossible for him not to gain points with how far he's been behind. The real challeng for Obama now is that the next debate is the VP on and I'm betting Ryan wins that one too. You'll see Obama with a little more fire the next debate. If he doesn't, he'll let Romney back in the race.
You do realize that Obama is the President and therefore responsible for the last 4 years. Romney said, trillion dollar deficits, Obamacare, shutting down oil/gas production on federal lands is the wrong way to go. What's Obama going to say? "I didnt do that?". He cant defend that. This is the first time Obama has had to actually defend what HE has done, and he cant. No one is going to try that.

I hope he tries to attack more next time, it will be even worse than this one was.
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