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Old 10-05-2012, 04:24 PM  
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Post Pioli, are we looking at a full rebuild?

Let's be optimistic and imagine for a moment that the end of this season brings the axe, and Pioli, Crennel, Cassel, and most of the team's major problems are swept out as Clark Hunt proves he is not an absentee owner and does in fact care about winning.

Are we looking at a near total rebuild, at this point?

This would be a team with no GM, no coaching staff worth retaining, and no quarterback. Most of Pioli's draft choices have melted away like cotton candy. If we had a window when we snuck into that Wild Card game, it seems to have closed. But the Chiefs are the 8th youngest team in the league with an average age of 25.8

Would we find a new GM attempting to retain talent like Bowe, Dorsey, Johnson, etc?

Or are we in "blow it up except for Houston, Hali, and a few select parts" territory?

Do the fans have the stomach for another rebuild?
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Old 10-05-2012, 05:18 PM   #61
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Unless we hire a GM who has a hard-on for Iowa Hawkeyes or midgets from the SEC, I'm thinking he'll have a lot of work to do.

We can certainly use an upgrade at several positions, and a 1-3 record (and getting curb-stomped in the losses) bears that out.
How many hawkeyes and midgets from the sec are on our team?
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Old 10-05-2012, 05:18 PM   #62
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Beyond the coaching what are they?
Feel free to read my posts, as well as the posts of others in this very thread.
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Old 10-05-2012, 05:19 PM   #63
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How many hawkeyes and midgets from the sec are on our team?
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About 5 too many.
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Old 10-05-2012, 05:20 PM   #64
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Feel free to read my posts, as well as the posts of others in this very thread.
I have. Maybe you could elaborate on them because beyond Cassel and Crennel there's no reason this team can't become an immediate contender.
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Old 10-05-2012, 05:21 PM   #65
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The new GM is going to need to gut the D-line, Fix the depth at safety, and figure out what they have at WR outside of Bowe.
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Old 10-05-2012, 05:22 PM   #66
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The new GM is going to need to gut the D-line, Fix the depth at safety, and figure out what they have at WR outside of Bowe.
Figuring out what to do with the QB will sort out the "issues" with the WRs.
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Old 10-05-2012, 05:25 PM   #67
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About 5 too many.
Lol. I don't think we are that far off even at that. A great qb would mask much of the issues, but I think I'm preaching to the choir here
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Old 10-05-2012, 05:25 PM   #68
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I have. Maybe you could elaborate on them because beyond Cassel and Crennel there's no reason this team can't become an immediate contender.
You're in denial.

You're also the newest addition to my ignore list.

This roster is stacked alright - stacked with guys that would be role players on legitimate SB contenders.

As much as I'd LOVE to blame everything on Matt Cassel, I can't, because it's far from all his fault.
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Old 10-05-2012, 05:26 PM   #69
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How many hawkeyes and midgets from the sec are on our team?
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Old 10-05-2012, 05:27 PM   #70
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You're in denial.

You're also the newest addition to my ignore list.

This roster is stacked alright - stacked with guys that would be role players on legitimate SB contenders.

As much as I'd LOVE to blame everything on Matt Cassel, I can't, because it's far from all his fault.
All super bowl contenders NEED role players too.

You have stated many times that NO team has all pros across the board, but if it has a qb you have something.
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Old 10-05-2012, 05:27 PM   #71
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Beyond the coaching what are they?
The roster is fine as is. Our entire defensive line and interior offensive line is a giant mess of high-end draft picks who should be playing a lot better than they are by now. Spending ANOTHER round of top-end picks on those positions would be a real goddamn nightmare. Let's just say we could stand to upgrade them some time in the next two years.

Other than that, all we really need are upgrades to FS (Lewis is a broke dick), ILB, and backup OLB. If we sign one GOOD veteran to stabilize the CBs, our depth will be just fine there.

I guess it really depends on Bowe and Albert. If we keep them both and find our QB, we could start raping faces as early as next year. If we keep one or the other, we're still good to go. If we lose both, it might be a year or two.
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If Pioli sticks around, maybe we'll starting taking them in R1 instead of R2.
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Old 10-05-2012, 05:28 PM   #73
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All super bowl contenders NEED role players too.

You have stated many times that NO team has all pros across the board, but if it has a qb you have something.
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Of course you need role players.

But a roster full of them?
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Old 10-05-2012, 05:29 PM   #75
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The roster is fine as is. Our entire defensive line and interior offensive line is a giant mess of high-end draft picks who should be playing a lot better than they are by now. Spending ANOTHER round of top-end picks on those positions would be a real goddamn nightmare. Let's just say we could stand to upgrade them some time in the next two years.

Other than that, all we really need are upgrades to FS (Lewis is a broke dick), ILB, and backup OLB. If we sign one GOOD veteran to stabilize the CBs, our depth will be just fine there.

I guess it really depends on Bowe and Albert. If we keep them both and find our QB, we could start raping faces as early as next year. If we keep one or the other, we're still good to go. If we lose both, it might be a year or two.
Agreed. I have said multiple times sign Bowe and Albert and trade our entire next two drafts for Geno Smith
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