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Old 10-09-2012, 04:58 PM  
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***OFFICIAL VP DEBATE THREAD***

A little early but I was just sitting in the park this afternoon when a small group of runner's came by me and it was Ryan running along the waters edge. They were running a pretty damn good clip. A quick pace for a jog that's for sure.

WTF is he doing his debate prep in St. Pete?

On Saturday night Romney held a big rally about 1/2 mile from my house and right across from where Ryan was running.
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Old 10-11-2012, 08:50 PM   #556
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Stephanie Cutter says it's a decisive win for Obama, so there you go...
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Old 10-11-2012, 08:50 PM   #557
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If Biden hadn't been such a jerk he would have probably won...
Agreed.

His timing was fine, his substance was fine. I don't even mind the interruptions for the most part.

But shit, man - try to be at least a little bit less of a dick in the process.

This is standard trial attorney stuff. You can object to throw off questions and rhythm. You can be abrasive at times during questioning. You can absolutely be assertive and win a jury over. You cannot, however, be completely domineering and a sneering super-villian sort of way.

Biden is clearly a smart man - but he also clearly didn't practice law for very long. There's a way to do what he just did and be exceptionally effective at it. Experience trial lawyers are experts at it.

Joe Biden isn't.
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Old 10-11-2012, 08:50 PM   #558
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Also it sounds like Biden really screwed the pooch on Benghazi by contradicting what people have been told up until now.
Good thing no one was under oath before congress...

OOPS!

Man Stephanie Cutter is a loon...
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Old 10-11-2012, 08:51 PM   #559
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Pretty much Biden either lied or admitted they have been lying about Libya.
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Old 10-11-2012, 08:51 PM   #560
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Looks like Biden's tone is becoming the main topic on every network except the loonies at MSNBC.
Those old women who have got the vapors, grasping their pearls and trying to find their fainting couch, wont determine the reaction to the debate.
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Pretty much Biden either lied or admitted they have been lying about Libya.
Libya was definitely not a good topic for Biden.
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Liberals trying to make the John F Kennedy observation a "big moment"...
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There shouldn't even be a VP debate, these two knuckleheads mean so little in the grand scheme of things it borders on ridiculous.

Biden is a mealy mouthed used car salesman and Ryan is a wet behind the ears noob.
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Old 10-11-2012, 08:53 PM   #564
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Old 10-11-2012, 08:54 PM   #565
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Those old women who have got the vapors, grasping their pearls and trying to find their fainting couch, wont determine the reaction to the debate.
Except that the Democrats are absolutely relying on those old women to carry Florida for them.
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Old 10-11-2012, 08:54 PM   #566
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Libya was definitely not a good topic for Biden.
I missed that part and just saw a clip of Biden saying they were never asked for more security. Not good...
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Old 10-11-2012, 08:54 PM   #567
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CBS instant poll of 500 uncommitted voters:

50% Biden
31% Ryan
19% Tie

Again, Negative ads work. People dont think they are rude. Politics is a bloodsport.

If you are voting Republican, be encouraged by this: Romney is not afraid to punch, and Obama sucks in debates.
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I disagree. By all accounts, Biden is a VERY nice guy in real life. He came across as a prick tonight, though.
There are alot of people who are "nice in real life"....but his reputation in politics is just what he portrayed tonight.
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Libya was definitely not a good topic for Biden.
THAT is the only possible "gotcha" from the entire debate. I doubt it gets talked up, instead the focus will be on Biden's tone or Ryan's tie or some other crap.
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The next mocking reference to become part of the Obama stump speech will be "Last night," long pause, "Paul Ryan told everyone he thinks he's John F Kennedy..."
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