Chiefs So Cassel is clearly the wrong guy, but what should ***** have done?

Amnorix · 10-09-2012, 04:36 PM

So with my finely tuned senses and amazing powers of perception, I have detected some small modicum of dislike for Mr. Cassel, and for Mr. ***** as well. I realize that the hatred of ***** is for more reasons than going with Cassel, but it seems to me that not only is the Cassel deal a big part of why people hate him, but a part of why the Chiefs are losing so much, which also leads to hating the GM who built the team.

Putting aside the keep Orton option, which I'd agree the Chiefs should have done, what does ChiefsPlanet say ***** should have done with the QB position? Clearly Sanchez is NOT an answer either, so ***** made the right move in not spending a high 1st round pick on him. I'm also not aware of any Drew Brees to Miami level screw ups in terms of QB options that were ignored.

So what realistic move should ***** have made, but didn't, at the QB position that pisses everybody off so much?

Heck, someone on here (GoChiefs) had a link on a post I saw explaining why ***** should be fired, and the discussion of all the options he had other than Cassel were really pretty pathetic.

teedubya · 10-09-2012, 04:38 PM

Just a small modicum of dislike. Nothing major.

Donger · 10-09-2012, 04:39 PM

I hate you. Oh, and may Gisele rend and torture Tommy anally with the all of the Lombardi's in their home one day. With no lube.

Molitoth · 10-09-2012, 04:39 PM

I knew Cassel wasn't the answer after the 2009 season.

If you know the QB position, you can watch to see if a QB can read a defense from the LOS, call correct audibles, go through progressions, and avoid a pass rush without going fetal.

He pulled off a few good games in 2010 against shitty teams which caused me to somewhat question his potential,... but then ended the season with another terrible 3 games of the same shit I saw the season before.

He should've been cut at that time.

CaliforniaChief · 10-09-2012, 04:39 PM

Trade away the draft for RG3 last year. The trade for Cassel was fine, IMO...extending him before the season was the sin. Let him play out his franchise year. At least TRY.

Amnorix · 10-09-2012, 04:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Donger

I hate you. Oh, and may Gisele rend and torture Tommy anally with the all of the Lombardi's in their home one day. With no lube.

I hope there are more than "just" three for him to be rended and tortured by...

Crush · 10-09-2012, 04:40 PM

What should ***** have done?

Die of AIDS.

**** the Patriots and the "Tree."

the Talking Can · 10-09-2012, 04:40 PM

and the pats fan show up....

acesn8s · 10-09-2012, 04:40 PM

He should done whatever it took to get Luck or RGIII.

**Phobia** · 10-09-2012, 04:41 PM

Cassel probably wasn't the worst decision in the world. Clearly he put together a strong 2010 in terms of statistics. But when it's so clearly not working, pull the plug. Obviously the last 2 or 3 coaches and coordinators haven't believed in Cassel based on the leash imposed. Equally obvious is the direction from the top dog that he plays or else. I think that's the crux of the matter. Dude won't come off his $60,000,000 bet.

**ChiefGator** · 10-09-2012, 04:42 PM

Well, just this year he could have traded up for Tannehill, or stayed put and taken Osweiler, Foles, or Cousins. That would not have helped us this year, but we would have a young gun at least to learn under Zorn.

In 2011 he could have picked Andy Dalton, or Kapernick.

After a couple really bad years, the last couple years haven't been that bad in terms of QBs. And this year should be decent again.

Crush · 10-09-2012, 04:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by the Talking Can

and the pats fan show up....

They have to defend everyone that was associated with their shitty franchise. It's in their DNA.

Amnorix · 10-09-2012, 04:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Molitoth

I knew Cassel wasn't the answer after the 2009 season.

If you know the QB position, you can watch to see if a QB can read a defense from the LOS, call correct audibles, go through progressions, and avoid a pass rush without going fetal.

He pulled off a few good games in 2010 against shitty teams which caused me to somewhat question his potential,... but then ended the season with another terrible 3 games of the same shit I saw the season before.

He should've been cut at that time.

He should've been CUT after a season where he had 27 TDs and 7 INTs?

Here's another stiff who had 27-7 in his third year that maybe you would've cut:

2002 San Diego 16–16 526–320 3,284 .608 17 16 52 24–180 76.9
2003 San Diego 11–11 356–205 2,108 .576 11 15 68 21–178 67.5
2004 San Diego 15–15 400–262 3,159 .655 27 7 79 18–131 104.8

(Drew Brees)?!

chiefzilla1501 · 10-09-2012, 04:42 PM

I appreciate the Chiefs swinging for Cassel, even if they missed.

I would have been okay if the Chiefs kept swinging but kept missing.

It is unacceptable to be oblivious for 4 years that you missed on Cassel, and not even TRY to take a swing at a guy you believe could compete for a starting job.

**DoucheMcCloud** · 10-09-2012, 04:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Amnorix

He should've been CUT after a season where he had 27 TDs and 7 INTs?

If you had actually watched the games instead of looking at stats, you wouldn't be asking this question.

10-09-2012, 04:36 PM
Amnorix In BB I trust Join Date: May 2003 Location: Boston, Mass. Casino cash: $196085	So Cassel is clearly the wrong guy, but what should * have done? So with my finely tuned senses and amazing powers of perception, I have detected some small modicum of dislike for Mr. Cassel, and for Mr. *** as well. I realize that the hatred of * is for more reasons than going with Cassel, but it seems to me that not only is the Cassel deal a big part of why people hate him, but a part of why the Chiefs are losing so much, which also leads to hating the GM who built the team. Putting aside the keep Orton option, which I'd agree the Chiefs should have done, what does ChiefsPlanet say * should have done with the QB position? Clearly Sanchez is NOT an answer either, so * made the right move in not spending a high 1st round pick on him. I'm also not aware of any Drew Brees to Miami level screw ups in terms of QB options that were ignored. So what realistic move should * have made, but didn't, at the QB position that pisses everybody off so much? Heck, someone on here (GoChiefs) had a link on a post I saw explaining why *** should be fired, and the discussion of all the options he had other than Cassel were really pretty pathetic.
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10-09-2012, 04:38 PM	#2
teedubya Chiefs. Royals. Jayhawks. Join Date: Oct 2003 Casino cash: $207971855	Just a small modicum of dislike. Nothing major.
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10-09-2012, 04:39 PM	#3
Donger "Think BOOM!" Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: 33.675° N 106.475° W Casino cash: $245	I hate you. Oh, and may Gisele rend and torture Tommy anally with the all of the Lombardi's in their home one day. With no lube. __________________ I think the young people enjoy it when I "get down," verbally, don't you?
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10-09-2012, 04:39 PM	#4
Molitoth Chiefs Rubberneck Join Date: Apr 2004 Casino cash: $83969	I knew Cassel wasn't the answer after the 2009 season. If you know the QB position, you can watch to see if a QB can read a defense from the LOS, call correct audibles, go through progressions, and avoid a pass rush without going fetal. He pulled off a few good games in 2010 against shitty teams which caused me to somewhat question his potential,... but then ended the season with another terrible 3 games of the same shit I saw the season before. He should've been cut at that time.
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10-09-2012, 04:39 PM	#5
CaliforniaChief Thank You Clark! Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: So Cal Casino cash: $7702726	Trade away the draft for RG3 last year. The trade for Cassel was fine, IMO...extending him before the season was the sin. Let him play out his franchise year. At least TRY. __________________ "Chiefs fans aren’t having it." -Jason Whitlock
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10-09-2012, 04:40 PM	#7
Crush Also Yes Join Date: Mar 2004 Casino cash: $1018345	What should *** have done? Die of AIDS. ** the Patriots and the "Tree."
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the Talking Can MVP Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: street Casino cash: $301237	and the pats fan show up.... __________________ Clark Hunt:a backup QB and an 8-8 record is worth 2 seconds"
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acesn8s MVP Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Here Casino cash: $4842	He should done whatever it took to get Luck or RGIII. __________________ Damnit Dorsey! Damnit Andy! We deserve better after 43 years.
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10-09-2012, 04:41 PM	#10
Phobia Together is Powerful Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: KCMO Casino cash: $2115225569	Cassel probably wasn't the worst decision in the world. Clearly he put together a strong 2010 in terms of statistics. But when it's so clearly not working, pull the plug. Obviously the last 2 or 3 coaches and coordinators haven't believed in Cassel based on the leash imposed. Equally obvious is the direction from the top dog that he plays or else. I think that's the crux of the matter. Dude won't come off his $60,000,000 bet.
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10-09-2012, 04:42 PM	#11
ChiefGator Go Women Folk! Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Northcentral Florida Casino cash: $27260	Well, just this year he could have traded up for Tannehill, or stayed put and taken Osweiler, Foles, or Cousins. That would not have helped us this year, but we would have a young gun at least to learn under Zorn. In 2011 he could have picked Andy Dalton, or Kapernick. After a couple really bad years, the last couple years haven't been that bad in terms of QBs. And this year should be decent again. __________________ - Mark
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10-09-2012, 04:42 PM	#14
chiefzilla1501 MVP Join Date: Aug 2008 Casino cash: $92538	I appreciate the Chiefs swinging for Cassel, even if they missed. I would have been okay if the Chiefs kept swinging but kept missing. It is unacceptable to be oblivious for 4 years that you missed on Cassel, and not even TRY to take a swing at a guy you believe could compete for a starting job.
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