**** OFFICIAL 2012-2013 Kansas Basketball Repository Thread ****

[ArrowheadHawk]

#1 Seed South Region (31-5,14-4,5-0)

Roster

Spoiler!

1 Naadir Tharpe Guard 5-11 170 So.
2 Rio Adams Guard 6-3 190 Fr.
3 Andrew White III Guard 6-6 210 Fr.
4 Justin Wesley Forward 6-9 220 RS Jr.
5 Jeff Withey Center 7-0 235 RS Sr.
10 Evan Manning Guard 6-3 170 Fr.
11 Tyler Self Guard 6-2 165 Fr.
15 Elijah Johnson Guard 6-4 195 Sr.
20 Niko Roberts Guard 5-11 175 Jr.
21 Christian Garrett Guard 6-3 185 So.
23 Ben McLemore Guard 6-5 195 RS Fr.
24 Travis Releford Guard 6-6 210 RS Sr.
31 Jamari Traylor Forward 6-8 220 RS Fr.
32 Zach Peters Forward 6-9 240 Fr.
33 Landen Lucas Forward 6-10 240 Fr.
34 Perry Ellis Forward 6-8 225 Fr.
40 Kevin Young Forward 6-8 190 Sr.

Non-Con Schedule

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Fri, Nov. 9 SE Missouri State at Kansas (W 74-55)
Tue, Nov. 13 Michigan St. at Kansas Atlanta, Ga. (L 64-67)
Thu, Nov. 15 UTC at Kansas (W 69-55)
Mon, Nov. 19 Washington State at Kansas Sprint Center (W 78-41)
Tue, Nov. 20 St. Louis at Kansas Sprint Center (W 73-59)
Mon, Nov. 26 SJSU at Kansas (W 70-57)
Fri, Nov. 30 Oregon State at Kansas (W 84-78)
Sat, Dec. 8 Colorado at Kansas (W 90-54)
Sat, Dec. 15 Belmont at Kansas (W 89-60)
Tue, Dec. 18 Richmond at Kansas (W 87-59)
Sat, Dec. 22 Kansas at Ohio St. (W 74-66)
Sat, Dec. 29 American at Kansas (W 89-57)
Sun, Jan. 6 Temple at Kansas (W 69-62)

Conference Schedule

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Wed, Jan. 9 Iowa State at Kansas (W 97-89 )
Sat, Jan. 12 Kansas at TT (W 60-46)
Mon, Jan. 14 Baylor at Kansas (W 61-44)
Sat, Jan. 19 Kansas at Texas (W 64-59)
Tue, Jan. 22 Kansas at Kansas State (W 59-55)
Sat, Jan. 26 Oklahoma at Kansas (W 67-54)
Mon, Jan. 28 Kansas at West Virginia (W 61-56)
Sat, Feb. 2 Okla. St. at Kansas (L 80-85)
Wed, Feb. 6 Kansas at TCU (L 55-62)
Sat, Feb. 9 Kansas at Oklahoma (L 66-72)
Mon, Feb. 11 Kansas State at Kansas (W 83-62)
Sat, Feb. 16 Texas at Kansas (W 73-47)
Wed, Feb. 20 Kansas at Okla. St. (W 68-67)
Sat, Feb. 23 TCU at Kansas (W 74-48)
Mon, Feb. 25 Kansas at Iowa State (W 108-96)
Sat, March 2 West Virginia at Kansas (W 91-65)
Mon, March 4 TT at Kansas (W 79-42)
Sat, March 9 Kansas at Baylor (L 58-81)

Post Season
Thu, March 14 TT at Kansas (W 91-63)
Fri, March 15 Iowa State at Kansas (W 88-73)
Sat, March 15 Kansas State at Kansas (W 70-54)
Fri, March 22 (16)Western Kentucky vs (1)Kansas (W 64-57)
Sun, March 24 (8)UNC vs (1)Kansas (W 70-58)
Fri, March 29 (4)Michigan at (1)Kansas Cowboys Stadium, Arlington, TX 6:37PM

[sedated]

Originally Posted by Saul Too

That's my point. He did that LAST YEAR...when he had Robinson.

He's never going to be asked to score in the NBA. He's going to be asked to come off the bench for defense and rebounding.

Against bums, he is averaging 14 points, 11 boards, and 6 blocks. Scouts aren't going to care how many boards and swats he gets against teams who start 6'5 power forwards.

Against MSU, a team with legit size, he had 8 points, 7 boards, and 2 blocks. Yawn

It seems your argument is impossible to win. You are declaring last year invalid because KU also had Robinson (which makes no sense because everyone else is talking about defense, which Robinson did not affect at all. If you are talking rebounds it makes even less sense because he had to fight with Robinson for all of them). And you will discount any stat from this year that isn’t against Michigan State – and stats are wonderful tools when the sample size is limited as much as possible

So, cool story bro.

[Buehler445]

Originally Posted by Mr. Plow

I'd be happy with that. As long as I get to keep yelling "Damnit Withey!"

Oh hell. If we can't yell "Damnit Withey," and "You Son of a Bitch". I won't have a whole lot to say during the games.

[Mr. Laz]

Originally Posted by Lzen

Yeah, because Wayne Simien sucked so bad.

where did i say ANYONE was going to suck?


tuck that tampon string back in and get back to work

[Lzen]

Originally Posted by CJizzles

I agree with that. But you mentioned his performance last night. When last year against top competition he set the NCAA Tournament record for blocked shots.

If he can continue to be a defensive presence, rebound the ball and score between 10-15 a game, as a fan, I will be content.

Despite what the MU fan thinks, that should be enough to get him an NBA contract. Hell, Ostertag had a decade in the NBA being just that. Of course, I understand that Withey has to get more physical for that to happen.

[Buehler445]

Originally Posted by Lzen

Despite what the MU fan thinks, that should be enough to get him an NBA contract. Hell, Ostertag had a decade in the NBA being just that. Of course, I understand that Withey has to get more physical for that to happen.

OSTERTAG!!! FTMFW

Teams will take dudes on potential. I learned that with Julian Wright. Dude needed to eat about 10 pounds of steak a day, had no shot outside of 15 feet, and had a LOT further to go with physicalness. He was long and could run, that's about it. And he went first round IIRC.

[CJizzles]

Originally Posted by Lzen

Despite what the MU fan thinks, that should be enough to get him an NBA contract. Hell, Ostertag had a decade in the NBA being just that. Of course, I understand that Withey has to get more physical for that to happen.

Oh, he will get a contract based on his size and defensive presence alone.

The MU fan is talking to us like we think he's a world beater and #1 overall pick worthy.

I think Withey is a bench guy in the NBA with some potential offensively, who can rebound and block shots.

Not sure why he keeps talking about Withey and his NBA numbers.

[Buehler445]

Originally Posted by CJizzles

Oh, he will get a contract based on his size and defensive presence alone.

The MU fan is talking to us like we think he's a world beater and #1 overall pick worthy.

I think Withey is a bench guy in the NBA with some potential offensively, who can rebound and block shots.

Not sure why he keeps talking about Withey and his NBA numbers.

Yeah, I don't know of a single KU fan that thinks he is an elite NBA prospect. I think he is basically Aldrich with a little higher ceiling.

[Bearcat]

Well, I do get his point... Withey's stock may never be higher than it was at the end of last season. But, who knows what went on behind the scenes... I'm sure he got a ton of advice on the subject. I assume he was projected to be drafted?

[Mr. Laz]

Originally Posted by Buehler445

Yeah, I don't know of a single KU fan that thinks he is an elite NBA prospect. I think he is basically Aldrich with a little higher ceiling.

imo Withey will get draft in the 2nd round and sent to the dev league.

I worry about his motivation, he seems to need a pretty regular kick in the ass to keep his energy level up.

[Lzen]

Originally Posted by Laz

where did i say ANYONE was going to suck?


tuck that tampon string back in and get back to work

Man, are you that slow? I was making an exaggeration to emphasize my point. Simien had sharp fundamentals.

[Lzen]

Originally Posted by sedated

It seems your argument is impossible to win. You are declaring last year invalid because KU also had Robinson (which makes no sense because everyone else is talking about defense, which Robinson did not affect at all. If you are talking rebounds it makes even less sense because he had to fight with Robinson for all of them). And you will discount any stat from this year that isn’t against Michigan State – and stats are wonderful tools when the sample size is limited as much as possible

So, cool story bro.

In other words, MUron.

[CoMoChief]

jesus...i didn't even know there was a game last night.

[Saul Good]

Originally Posted by CJizzles

Oh, he will get a contract based on his size and defensive presence alone.

The MU fan is talking to us like we think he's a world beater and #1 overall pick worthy.

I think Withey is a bench guy in the NBA with some potential offensively, who can rebound and block shots.

Not sure why he keeps talking about Withey and his NBA numbers.

I'm talking about his NBA stock because I said he was dumb for coming back this year. He would have likely been a late (maybe even mid) first round pick. I think it's unlikely that he goes in the first this year.

I don't know why this updates Kansas fans. The team is obviously better off with him.

[CJizzles]

Originally Posted by Saul Too

I'm talking about his NBA stock because I said he was dumb for coming back this year. He would have likely been a late (maybe even mid) first round pick. I think it's unlikely that he goes in the first this year.

I don't know why this updates Kansas fans. The team is obviously better off with him.

I agree with your sentiment regarding Withey and the NBA.

But, you're the one who threw the 6'5" forward jab too.

If you watched Withey last year during the tournament you know he can compete with anyone, from a defensive standpoint.

[Saul Good]

Originally Posted by sedated

It seems your argument is impossible to win. You are declaring last year invalid because KU also had Robinson (which makes no sense because everyone else is talking about defense, which Robinson did not affect at all. If you are talking rebounds it makes even less sense because he had to fight with Robinson for all of them). And you will discount any stat from this year that isn’t against Michigan State – and stats are wonderful tools when the sample size is limited as much as possible

So, cool story bro.

So you don't think Withey had an advantage playing next to Robinson on the defensive end? Robinson was a ****ing load in the paint and on the block. Players had to try to go around him which created the opportunities for Withey to get blocks from the weak side. Robinson could force players a certain direction because he was so damned strong. Perry Ellis can't do that. He isn't physical enough to do what Robinson could do.

As a tall center with good timing but limited athleticism, Withey's best friend on the defensive end is an enormous power forward. Frankly, it didn't hurt having Taylor guarding the point, either. Taylor is so long and quick that he wasn't beat by the first step. If someone got around him, they didn't get free at the three point line. By the time they were past Taylor, Withey was there waiting, and they didn't have room to make a move. He swallowed them up, and he was really good at it.