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BO 37 31.36%
MR 46 38.98%
Tie 20 16.95%
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Old 10-16-2012, 08:26 PM  
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So who won the 2ND Presidential Debate???
What say yea?
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Old 10-16-2012, 09:36 PM   #61
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Frank Luntz's focus group seems to favor Romney.
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Old 10-16-2012, 09:36 PM   #62
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Maybe MR missed an oppotunity on Libya, but I don't think undecided voters needed him to capitalize on it. If they haven't caught the time line in the headlines they sure as hell will now.

Obama has put himself in the corner and the left is screaming about Romney putting women in a binder.
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Old 10-16-2012, 09:37 PM   #63
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Obama stopped the bleeding and won by Romney's mishandling of the Libya question alone. He reshaped his administration's entire stance and policy toward the attack in his response, and Mitt let him off the hook. How Mitt let a technicality (Whether Obama used the word terror or not) drive his main analysis was a crucial error.

Any killing by another on purpose is an act of terror. But to have your UN ambassador, plus other department heads calling the violence related to the disturbing video when it had nothing to do with it is out of line. Plus Obama dogged the question completely on who refused the extra security.
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Old 10-16-2012, 09:38 PM   #64
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He sat there and claimed responsibility. That's what killed Romney on that issue. To be honest, I heard the question and cringed. I figured that he'd botch it. Turns out it was the other way around.
That will come out on the next debate .... all foreign policy!
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Old 10-16-2012, 09:38 PM   #66
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http://www.nytimes.com/video/2012/10...-in-libya.html

I just cant get enough of that video. Not that I want Obama re-elected, but there is one of the biggest "oh shit" moments in the history of "oh shit" moments ever in human history.

When Romney called Obama out, raise his eyebrow and subtly prompted Obama to respond (thinking he'd either spin it that he meant to say it was terrorism or try to walk his comment back, or whatever), Obama just says "please proceed" as if to say "I got ya, M F'er, I'm not saying a damned word, you just keep going". At that moment, Romney obviously suspected he might be in trouble, awkwardly turning back to Candy and stumbling, it was classic.
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Old 10-16-2012, 09:41 PM   #69
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Romney never asked to move onto another question. Sorry but nice try.

And he bullied her so much that Obama got an extra 4 minutes and a lifeline toss from the moderator.
This, but Obama did show up and bark a little louder. He got a great opportunity getting the last question and throwing in the 47% with no response.
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Old 10-16-2012, 09:41 PM   #70
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I just cant get enough of that video. Not that I want Obama re-elected, but there is one of the biggest "oh shit" moments in the history of "oh shit" moments ever in human history.

When Romney called Obama out, raise his eyebrow and subtly prompted Obama to respond (thinking he'd either spin it that he meant to say it was terrorism or try to walk his comment back, or whatever), Obama just says "please proceed" as if to say "I got ya, M F'er, I'm not saying a damned word, you just keep going". At that moment, Romney obviously suspected he might be in trouble, awkwardly turning back to Candy and stumbling, it was classic.
Obama lied, and the cow was wrong. The president called it a "terrible act." He did not call it "an act of terror." There's a world of difference.
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If you voted Mitt Romney, then you are completely in the tank for Romney.

He got his F'ing ass kicked out there.
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I just cant get enough of that video. Not that I want Obama re-elected, but there is one of the biggest "oh shit" moments in the history of "oh shit" moments ever in human history.

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Yeah, considering both Obama and Crowley were wrong, Romeny looked like a dildo
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Any killing by another on purpose is an act of terror. But to have your UN ambassador, plus other department heads calling the violence related to the disturbing video when it had nothing to do with it is out of line. Plus Obama dogged the question completely on who refused the extra security.
Yeah, but the underlying problem is that Mitt said none of this, he let Obama off the hook.
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Maybe MR missed an oppotunity on Libya, but I don't think undecided voters needed him to capitalize on it. If they haven't caught the time line in the headlines they sure as hell will now.

Obama has put himself in the corner and the left is screaming about Romney putting women in a binder.
I think anyone who is still undecided is probably undecided because they arent sure about who to choose on economic issues, and Romney was just as strong on those as he was in the first debate.
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If you voted Mitt Romney, then you are completely in the tank for Romney.

He got his F'ing ass kicked out there.
....JFC where you get this shit from is beyond me
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