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Old 10-17-2012, 02:17 AM  
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Anonymous Releases Name of Amanda Todd Bully

I don't know why but I find this both frightening and fascinating. This ain't your Daddy's way of whooping some ass if he wanted. Wonder how bad that dude is shitting his pants.

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Old 10-17-2012, 09:54 AM   #46
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Then there's Amanda. You mean to tell me she couldn't handle life because there was a picture of her breasts being circulated over the internet and around her city? I find that to be ridiculous. Everyone does things they wish they could take back. But come on.. this whole bullying phenomenon erks me big time. Kids have been teased and bullied since the beginning of time. Now all of a sudden these kids are killing themselves over it? I blame the parents and society for not equipping our youth with ways to deal with "bullying."
How old are you?

Sometimes you have to remember how strange the teenage mind is. It rarely makes any sense, everything is either the greatest thing in the world or the end of the world.

I'm sure a lot of teens think about suicide. Some of them just need that push.
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Old 10-17-2012, 09:55 AM   #47
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Ummmm how is blaming the parents bad? No 12 year old should be online in chat rooms. Spare me the "it's 2012" speech. That's right. It is. If you're a responsible parent you don't put your kids on the ****ing internet unsupervised.

For kids, getting over really simple things can be hard. Your life is very "small" so something as "minor" to us, like a picture of breasts, can be a real wrecking ball to a kids life. A lot of kids don't have great relationships with their parents either, and again that's the parents fault.

It's our job to be the safe keepers for our children. When we fail, they pay the price.
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Old 10-17-2012, 09:58 AM   #48
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Ummmm how is blaming the parents bad? No 12 year old should be online in chat rooms. Spare me the "it's 2012" speech. That's right. It is. If you're a responsible parent you don't put your kids on the ****ing internet unsupervised.

For kids, getting over really simple things can be hard. Your life is very "small" so something as "minor" to us, like a picture of breasts, can be a real wrecking ball to a kids life. A lot of kids don't have great relationships with their parents either, and again that's the parents fault.

It's our job to be the safe keepers for our children. When we fail, they pay the price.
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Old 10-17-2012, 09:59 AM   #49
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I have four children, two boys and two girls. I have only allowed computers that are accessible to the children to be placed in the living room, in plain view of the entire family. I have also consistently enforced a set of rules regarding internet usage. Kids will be kids. They will have to deal with sexuality as they mature and it happens earlier than a lot of people realize. As a parent you hope to help your kids through that. I don't blame her parents for her death. It was her own unfortunate choice. I do blame the guy that harassed her for causing extra stress in her life that she shouldn't have had to deal with.
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Old 10-17-2012, 10:00 AM   #50
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I have four children, two boys and two girls. I have only allowed computers that are accessible to the children to be placed in the living room, in plain view of the entire family. I have also consistently enforced a set of rules regarding internet usage. Kids will be kids. They will have to deal with sexuality as they mature and it happens earlier than a lot of people realize. As a parent you hope to help your kids through that. I don't blame her parents for her death. It was her own unfortunate choice. I do blame the guy that harassed her for causing extra stress in her life that she shouldn't have had to deal with.
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We have ONE computer in our house that is located in our Kitchen/Hearth Room area. This seems to work for my 11 and 14 yr old boys. I know it sure as hell works for us.
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Old 10-17-2012, 10:04 AM   #51
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I have a hard time finding a reason not to blame Amanda and her parents for this tragedy. First off why does a 12 year old have a webcam? Yeah it's impossible nowadays to keep a kid off the net, but why buy her a webcam? NOTHING good comes from owning a webcam if you're a child. Whats more appalling is the fact that her parents weren't successful in defusing the situation. Instead they gave into all her emotions instead of teaching her how to learn from this silly mistake.

Then there's Amanda. You mean to tell me she couldn't handle life because there was a picture of her breasts being circulated over the internet and around her city? I find that to be ridiculous. Everyone does things they wish they could take back. But come on.. this whole bullying phenomenon erks me big time. Kids have been teased and bullied since the beginning of time. Now all of a sudden these kids are killing themselves over it? I blame the parents and society for not equipping our youth with ways to deal with "bullying."

The dude who kept pursuing her and making life hard on her is a scumbag.. yes I agree. But it's how a person reacts to harassment that opens them up to being bullied. If she just ignored the dude instead of changing schools and posting youtube videos the dude woulda got bored n gave up.

And the getting beaten up for sleeping with another girls boyfriend.. that doesnt need explanation. What would you do if you found out some dude was bangin your old lady? Probably load up the shotgun or pound your fist through his skull. Plus she's how old? 15 or something having a one night stand? Where's the parenting??????????

The whole situation could and should have been avoided. A poor girl resorting to suicide over something she did as a 12 year old is sad. Her actions and her parents actions/inaction deserve 100% of the blame.

I see where you are coming from but bottom line is any adult that encourages a 12 year old child to show him her private parts has committed pedophilia in my mind and is subject to street justice. Period.
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Old 10-17-2012, 10:08 AM   #52
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I have four children, two boys and two girls. I have only allowed computers that are accessible to the children to be placed in the living room, in plain view of the entire family. I have also consistently enforced a set of rules regarding internet usage. Kids will be kids. They will have to deal with sexuality as they mature and it happens earlier than a lot of people realize. As a parent you hope to help your kids through that. I don't blame her parents for her death. It was her own unfortunate choice. I do blame the guy that harassed her for causing extra stress in her life that she shouldn't have had to deal with.
This over and over. Never allow a computer with internet access in your children's room. Put it in the living room and only allow then to surf when the family is in the room.
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Old 10-17-2012, 10:08 AM   #53
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This over and over. Never allow a computer with internet access in your children's room. Put it in the living room and only allow then to surf when the family is in the room.
Was it you that recommended Open DNS to me?
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Old 10-17-2012, 10:12 AM   #55
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All joking aside though, one of the strongest building blocks that will help you raise a daughter is just to be a good man. She will be looking at you to see what a man is, and using you as a guideline for the rest of her life. Set a good example.
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Old 10-17-2012, 10:14 AM   #56
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All joking aside though, one of the strongest building blocks that will help you raise a daughter is just to be a good man. She will be looking at you to see what a man is, and using you as a guideline for the rest of her life. Set a good example.
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This over and over. Never allow a computer with internet access in your children's room. Put it in the living room and only allow then to surf when the family is in the room.
You can take whatever precautions or establish any rule you want, but if the child wants to do it then they will figure out a way to make it happen. I know I did.
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You can take whatever precautions or establish any rule you want, but if the child wants to do it then they will figure out a way to make it happen. I know I did.
That's generally because a lot of parents don't educate their kids properly about the world. If you don't use your own controlled environment to teach your kids about what a meat grinder the world can be, someone else will, or they will have to learn in a way like this girl learned.

As I said, it's our job to be our kids safe keepers. That also means educating them about these things and not sugar coating it. We watched Traffic with my 14 year old a few months ago. That movie really hit home with her. As someone who grew up dealing with a sibling that was an addict, I never ever want to see my kids travel down that path. So I will do whatever it takes to let them see how ugly it can get, before they are actually IN that ugly.
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