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Old 10-20-2012, 10:38 AM  
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Tebow trademarks kneeling on one knee and fake praying

http://sports.yahoo.com/news/jets-te...7810--nfl.html

FLORHAM PARK, N.J. (AP) -- Dropping to a knee like Tim Tebow might cost you now.
The New York Jets backup quarterback is trademarking ''Tebowing,'' the move in which he goes down on one knee and holds a clenched fist against his forehead while praying during games.
After Tebow led the Denver Broncos to a handful of fourth-quarter comeback victories last season, ''Tebowing'' swept the country - with actor Robert Downey Jr. even doing it at the Oscars.
Newsday first reported that the trademark was approved Oct. 9. Tebow says Friday he wasn't aware the trademark was official yet.
The devout Christian says his representatives filed on his behalf not for financial gain, but ''to just control how it's used, make sure it's used in the right way.''
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Old 10-20-2012, 06:39 PM   #76
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So, no more of this?...

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Old 10-20-2012, 06:45 PM   #77
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So, no more of this?...

This wouldn't be a problem. That's simply a player kneeling and praying and could easily be argued that way. That's not what this trademark will protect. Now, he may get a taunting penalty...but otherwise, he's good.
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Old 10-20-2012, 06:53 PM   #78
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I never saw anybody hating on Anthony Davis for filing a trademark application for his Unibrow and copyright apps for the phrases "fear the brow" and "raise the brow". (http://www.cnbc.com/id/47951613/Anth...marks_His_Brow)

I don't see anybody griping at Austin Rivers, Bart Scott, Jeremy Lin, Vince Young, or RGIII for trademarking their phrases. (http://espn.go.com/blog/playbook/fan...ng-commonplace)

Here's an article by the World Intellectual Property Organization all about sports figures and their brand as it pertains to trademarks: http://www.wipo.int/ip-sport/en/branding.html

This is nothing new fellas. You just don't like Tebow so you're crying about it.
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Old 10-20-2012, 06:55 PM   #79
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Old 10-20-2012, 06:55 PM   #80
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There's a big difference between the ability to force somebody to pay you royalties and a licensing deal.

You guys just want to hate so much you can't even accept logic and fact. It's a little pathetic.

What's even more pathetic is that we're wasting our time bickering about it. I've got apps to build and trademarks/patents to file.
I'll admit I don't know anything about trademark or patent law. I just don't understand why the legal system needs to protect this. So what happens if someone make a porn featuring the Tebow? Does that really damage Tebow? Isn't the damage really in the restricting of society the beauty of seeing a man tebow his balls into a female's mouth?
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Old 10-20-2012, 06:55 PM   #81
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Jordan didn't trademark himself PRAYING.

Or act holier than thou and like its all for God then make it where he could make money off of it.
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Same goes fire RG3 and the others you mention.
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Old 10-20-2012, 07:03 PM   #82
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I'll admit I don't know anything about trademark or patent law. I just don't understand why the legal system needs to protect this. So what happens if someone make a porn featuring the Tebow? Does that really damage Tebow? Isn't the damage really in the restricting of society the beauty of seeing a man tebow his balls into a female's mouth?
A better example would be something like this.

We know Tebow is an evangelical christian and proudly presents himself as such, which is partly how this whole thing started. His celebrity status and the public latching onto him so tightly caused this term and image to be directly associated with Tim Tebow.

So then let's say some other church that Tebow does not attend and maybe even does not agree with for one reason or another decides to use the Tebow mark to attract people to their services or events, or even help to raise donations. The general public could very easily see that mark and feel like, oh, Tebow must support this and I love Tebow, so I'm going to donate.

Now Tebow's mark is aiding something he doesn't support, and he could actually see backlash from his supporters who think he's now supporting something they don't like. We all know how social media works these days, and if confusion about what he was or was not supporting got out it could be damaging to Tebow and co.

The trademark allows them to protect this type of thing happening.
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Jordan didn't trademark himself PRAYING.

Or act holier than thou and like its all for God then make it where he could make money off of it.
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It's not the act of praying that he's trademarking. It's that image of Tebow's body kneeling in that way. That silhouette is very powerful right now whether you want to believe it or not.

Take a picture of yourself doing that and use it on your own stuff and you'll have no problem. Nobody would associate your image with Tebow, I'm sure.

Also, somebody's personality has nothing to do with it, and once again you're proving ignorance if you think it does. All you're proving is that you don't like Tebow and you'll find anything you can to bitch at him about whether it makes any sense or not.
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He could get paid and they can use it if he wants.
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Old 10-20-2012, 07:10 PM   #85
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A better example would be something like this.

We know Tebow is an evangelical christian and proudly presents himself as such, which is partly how this whole thing started. His celebrity status and the public latching onto him so tightly caused this term and image to be directly associated with Tim Tebow.

So then let's say some other church that Tebow does not attend and maybe even does not agree with for one reason or another decides to use the Tebow mark to attract people to their services or events, or even help to raise donations. The general public could very easily see that mark and feel like, oh, Tebow must support this and I love Tebow, so I'm going to donate.

Now Tebow's mark is aiding something he doesn't support, and he could actually see backlash from his supporters who think he's now supporting something they don't like. We all know how social media works these days, and if confusion about what he was or was not supporting got out it could be damaging to Tebow and co.

The trademark allows them to protect this type of thing happening.
That is a good example. It seems to me this legal protection then is about prospectively curbing something resembling fraud; protecting third parties from being deceived rather than protecting Tebow.
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I don't hate tebow.I could care less about him. Its the fact he can get paid and you are here arguing its not about money.
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Its a money grab.

Even if he donated it to his foundation he earned it and its a tax write of.
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Its a money grab.

Even if he donated it to his foundation he earned it and its a tax write of.
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I don't know much about tax law either, but it sounds like if he's looking for a tax deduction, getting a bunch of royalties for use of trademark is a bad way of doing it considering it would count as income.
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I don't hate tebow.I could care less about him. Its the fact he can get paid and you are here arguing its not about money.
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If you think he did this because of money you're just an idiot. The guy will be swimming in cash for the rest of his life whether it's from football or crazy loonies giving God money through him. He doesn't need to do this for money, and people don't file trademark applications for money. That's not the point of a trademark!

A patent is what allows people to earn royalties on the use of the patented mark, product, service or whatever. Trademarks are about protection...not profit.

For your sake, I really hope you don't run your own business.

Even if it was for money, why would you care so much about that? People are doing MUCH more sleezy shit in this country every day to earn more money than Tebow dreams about. It's nothing but a smart business decision...which he didn't even make. His people did.
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If you think he did this because of money you're just an idiot. The guy will be swimming in cash for the rest of his life whether it's from football or crazy loonies giving God money through him. He doesn't need to do this for money, and people don't file trademark applications for money. That's not the point of a trademark!

A patent is what allows people to earn royalties on the use of the patented mark, product, service or whatever. Trademarks are about protection...not profit.

For your sake, I really hope you don't run your own business.
Lol. I actually am pretty successful in what I do. you admitted yourself he can make money off of this.
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