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Old 11-28-2012, 09:08 AM  
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MMBS: Offensive play call terminology

So the brief time I played football, our offense was incredibly simple in terminology such as "Ace 90 1122" where everything a dumb WR (aka me) needed to know as a route runner, and I knew the 90 meant a 3 step QB drop but never knew what exactly the same meant for linemen responsibilities.

That being said, I never knew what something like "Pro Right I, 32 dive" meant for both linemen and running backs..

TL;DR: I'd like to hear examples of simple and complex play calls at the highest level a CP member played at.

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Old 11-28-2012, 09:10 AM   #2
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Old 11-28-2012, 09:49 AM   #3
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And here I was thinking I could actually generate a legitimate topic of discussion.. but no. The suckage that is Daboll/Cassel/Pioli has totally permeated this place..
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Old 11-28-2012, 09:52 AM   #4
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Old 11-28-2012, 09:56 AM   #5
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It really depends on the actual system the OC came from. The old Air Coryell offense was called just as simply as the offense you describe.

The entirety of the Walsh San Fran offense can be found here

http://www.scribd.com/doc/2944734/19...-Offense-Walsh
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Old 11-28-2012, 10:18 AM   #6
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The pro Right 32 dive sounds like basic offense.

The play just tells you the formation and that the "3" back is going to the "2" hole which is between center and Right guard. Offensive linemen know their gaps for that play and their primary responsibility.

My favorite plays in Junior High were Wing Right 41 Power Trap and Wing Left 48 Reverse.
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The pro Right 32 dive sounds like basic offense.

The play just tells you the formation and that the "3" back is going to the "2" hole which is between center and Right guard. Offensive linemen know their gaps for that play and their primary responsibility.

My favorite plays in Junior High were Wing Right 41 Power Trap and Wing Left 48 Reverse.
I knew the holes (531 LT-C-RT 246) but never knew what 32 would mean for a lineman.
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The pro Right 32 dive sounds like basic offense.

The play just tells you the formation and that the "3" back is going to the "2" hole which is between center and Right guard. Offensive linemen know their gaps

I thought it meant the 3rd leg goes in the 2 hole.
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If the lineman know the back, and know the hole is flowing to, unless there are additional calls on for a defense change, they'll know who to block. Center and Guard will know their primary responsibilities depending on the defense setup, and they'll know if they should both take the DT of have individual task.

I'm sure it's much more complicated at the college and pro level because of the movement, but it was pretty cut and dried for us.

I played guard a little to, and I knew based on the call where I was going....if I were pulling for a sweep or trap and to smash the first
guy I got to on arrival. The only real difference was if someone didn't beat their guy, or if the D-line stunted or something. Otherwise, if
they OC and OG handled their guy, mine was the first LB on the 2nd level.

There wasn't much as far as fancy calls for the line, unless we saw a blitz coming. Then it's a matter of taking the inside or outside guy.

I'm sure it's much more complicated even at bigger Schools.


In the offenses I played in, the "1" was the quarterback, "2" "3" were running backs and 4 was a wing back. 2nd number was the hole and anything else
just told you draw, dive, trap, power trap, power dive, sweep, reverse.

And then the opposite of what you said applied to the line. If it was Zebra Left Y 102 stick, I knew it told the WRs and TEs where to go and what routes to run, but I only had to worry about my blocking responsibility...or if that play involved a route for a back.
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If the lineman know the back, and know the hole is flowing to, unless there are additional calls on for a defense change, they'll know who to block. Center and Guard will know their primary responsibilities depending on the defense setup, and they'll know if they should both take the DT of have individual task.

I'm sure it's much more complicated at the college and pro level because of the movement, but it was pretty cut and dried for us.
So a guard would just have to memorize when to pull, for example, on a play by play basis?
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So a guard would just have to memorize when to pull, for example, on a play by play basis?
I believe that is often what the center does, looks over the line and determines the best way to block the play. We ran a play with 3 separate ways to block, it was a simple fullback dive but the me and the guard next to me would have to call out the way we were going to block
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In the Pro's the 3 back thru the 2 hole isn't how it's done. A "90" would be a run or a fake thru the "O" hole.Must be a college playbook.

In the Run n Shoot the terminology was much simpler than today's Pro teams. A "Rip 60 Z Go" was a base play in that offense that indicated motion right 60 specified blocking and Z was the right wideout running a Go.
Each receiver had a route that he ran on that play.

Most Pro offenses today will give a 3 digit route tree number that tells the receivers what to do. NFL.com had a great video of terminology that had the top QBs screwing it up in the huddle. Funny stuff.
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So a guard would just have to memorize when to pull, for example, on a play by play basis?
it's the center.

and its based off identifying the Mike backer.

or in lower levels of football identifying who the nose guard lines up over.

if you watched the Chiefs vs Broncos game 9 times out of 10 Peyton Manning would call out Derrick Johnson as the mike back and audible based off that, and then the rest of the line knew what to do.
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So a guard would just have to memorize when to pull, for example, on a play by play basis?
That is how it worked for us.

If Left guard heard a power trap to the right side, he would know to pull right and he was to clear that gap, with primary responsibility assumed to be to take the 2nd level guy, usually a LB out. Usual blocking schemes for us were based on if the DT and DE were lined up heads up on someone, or in your gap. We just studied the plays, learned your responsibilities and then we had some very simple calls to deal with adjustments.

It was pretty simple, line up and run the called play stuff.


I should clarify that I'm not an expert, wasn't a great football player....Just what I remember.
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