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Old 10-23-2012, 12:25 AM  
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For those voting for Romney...

What do you think about BO saying that MRs approach to reduce the deficit and job growth, is what got us in trouble to begin with?
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Old 10-23-2012, 08:08 AM   #16
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**** that. What private sector job has Obama ever had? We won't even get into actually running a business.
Hilarious. Is it 2008 or something? Anyway, he's not trying to run a business.
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Old 10-23-2012, 08:16 AM   #17
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Old 10-23-2012, 08:18 AM   #18
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The way I see it Romney is much more qualified to be President than Bo was 4 years ago. Romney has built several successful businesses and done an outstanding job as Governor. I still don't understand how BO came from nowhere and had done nothing to get elected other than the color of his skin.
He was also a good speaker and looked good on TV to the ladies, whereas John McCain always looked like he had slept in his clothes. Television appearance has been very important since 1960.

Obama is more qualified now than he was 4 years ago, because he now has some actual experience. I bet his golf handicap has dropped significantly as well.

I am not sure about Romney's math either, but to me that is secondary to the fact that I think he is a good, experienced, honest man that I think we can actually trust to have American interests first and foremost.

The bottom line, the more people that get back to work, the more people that will be paying taxes. Obama care is going to destroy small business, and small business is the biggest job generator.
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Old 10-23-2012, 08:25 AM   #19
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Hilarious. Is it 2008 or something? Anyway, he's not trying to run a business.
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Old 10-23-2012, 08:27 AM   #20
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Reaganomics simply will not work until we bring back the jobs that got outsourced. It kind of works now but not for the USA, alot of that money goes overseas and does not trickle down to the USA. Bring back the jobs or come up with another plan.
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Old 10-23-2012, 08:31 AM   #21
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Does anyone even know what MRs approach is?

There are times when you think you are just starting to understand it and then you wake up the next morning and MR flipped a u-ey and changed his opinion.
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Old 10-23-2012, 08:33 AM   #22
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Just one fellows opinion. By the way not voting for Romney or Obama.

What got us into the mess was excess spending by both the Government and by individuals. The Gov spent well in excess of their revenues and frankly with Government Lenders leading the charge, people were allowed to buy more home than they could afford.

The economy is pretty cyclical. If you look at the end/beginning of a decade you will generally see a recession. I believe this was a normal economic downturn that was horribly exacerbated by an over-inflated housing market, the government wallowing in debt, and individuals with excessive outgo and inadequate savings to weather the storm.

Instead of saving everyone needed a 4th flat-screen, the new I-pod and so forth on top of a home they could maybe just barely afford as long as both spouses were working.

The idea that cutting taxes automatically hurts the tax revenue is something we can debate because there have been a number of times that revenues went up after the tax cuts including Clinton the majority of the Bush administration. Conversely to argue that taxing people more helps the economy is laughable.

So in my opinion the causes of the recession were bipartisan and have really only been addressed in superficial ways. My biggest problem with both Obama and the Romney camp is that neither has proposed anything that would actually balance the budget much less start paying down the debt.
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Old 10-23-2012, 08:51 AM   #23
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Does anyone even know what MRs approach is?
Across-the-board tax rate reductions. Spending cuts, 4 percent economic growth, bring the deficit and debt GDP ratios down.

Corporate tax cut to 25 percent from 35 percent.

Stop the Fed destroying the dollar-- Fire Bernanke.

In a nutshell, a free-market, free-enterprise policy ie opportunity over class warfare. Jobs not government dependency. The opposite of the failed communist crap Obama has been peddling for four years.
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Old 10-23-2012, 09:01 AM   #24
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We disagree. Romney has all the advisors Bush had. The only hope I see, is that he taps the mind of Ron Paul, say by replacing Bernanke, since they're friendly with each other.
Okay. I'll play this silly game. What do you think about Obama using Carter's failed plans? If we want to compare Romney to Bush, why not Obama to Carter? I mean after all they're the same exact person right?
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Old 10-23-2012, 09:06 AM   #25
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Okay. I'll play this silly game. What do you think about Obama using Carter's failed plans? If we want to compare Romney to Bush, why not Obama to Carter? I mean after all they're the same exact person right?
Because they are not similar, nor even of a similar time. Carter left office 32 years ago. Clinton would be a better comparison. Except for the
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Old 10-23-2012, 09:13 AM   #26
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Just one fellows opinion. By the way not voting for Romney or Obama.

What got us into the mess was excess spending by both the Government and by individuals. The Gov spent well in excess of their revenues and frankly with Government Lenders leading the charge, people were allowed to buy more home than they could afford.

The economy is pretty cyclical. If you look at the end/beginning of a decade you will generally see a recession. I believe this was a normal economic downturn that was horribly exacerbated by an over-inflated housing market, the government wallowing in debt, and individuals with excessive outgo and inadequate savings to weather the storm.

Instead of saving everyone needed a 4th flat-screen, the new I-pod and so forth on top of a home they could maybe just barely afford as long as both spouses were working.

The idea that cutting taxes automatically hurts the tax revenue is something we can debate because there have been a number of times that revenues went up after the tax cuts including Clinton the majority of the Bush administration. Conversely to argue that taxing people more helps the economy is laughable.

So in my opinion the causes of the recession were bipartisan and have really only been addressed in superficial ways. My biggest problem with both Obama and the Romney camp is that neither has proposed anything that would actually balance the budget much less start paying down the debt.
Yes, let's completely absolve the banks who lent that money to people and levered up.

Also, if you want to analyze the effects of tax cuts on an economy that has inflation and a natural bias to growth, you need to measure taxes as a % of gdp. Bush's tax cuts were disastrous by just about every measure imaginable.
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Old 10-23-2012, 10:06 AM   #27
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Across-the-board tax rate reductions. Spending cuts, 4 percent economic growth, bring the deficit and debt GDP ratios down.

Corporate tax cut to 25 percent from 35 percent.

Stop the Fed destroying the dollar-- Fire Bernanke.

In a nutshell, a free-market, free-enterprise policy ie opportunity over class warfare. Jobs not government dependency. The opposite of the failed communist crap Obama has been peddling for four years.
There's not a soul on this planet that believes MRs plan is going to reduce anything.
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Old 10-23-2012, 10:22 AM   #28
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Old 10-23-2012, 10:25 AM   #29
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Whoops. I'm apparently wrong. There's at least one that wants to challenge the laws of math.
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Old 10-23-2012, 10:30 AM   #30
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There's not a soul on this planet that believes MRs plan is going to reduce anything.
It will reduce taxes on millionaires.
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