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Old 10-23-2012, 07:43 AM  
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Syria: Iran's Path To The Sea

Can somebody explain this to me, please?

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MR. ROMNEY: Well, let's step back and talk about what's happening in Syria and how important it is. First of all, 30,000 people being killed by their government is a humanitarian disaster.

Secondly, Syria's an opportunity for us because Syria plays an important role in the Middle East, particularly right now. Syria is Iran's only ally in the Arab world. It's their route to the sea. It's the route for them to arm Hezbollah in Lebanon, which threatens, of course, our ally Israel. And so seeing Syria remove Assad is a very high priority for us. Number two, seeing a -- a replacement government being responsible people is critical for us. And finally, we don't want to have military involvement there. We don't want to get drawn into a military conflict.
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Old 10-23-2012, 10:57 AM   #61
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in the context that you think this matters, corpseman.

btw, we use more bayonets than in the past, tool.
I heard the musket is also making a comeback.
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Old 10-23-2012, 10:58 AM   #62
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Did either candidate address drilling for oil in the Sea of Mexico?
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Old 10-23-2012, 10:58 AM   #63
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Wait--it's a Sea and a Coast? But one is water and one is land!
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My head's fine. You are the one claiming that a gulf is a sea and an ocean.
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Old 10-23-2012, 11:01 AM   #64
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Did either candidate address drilling for oil in the Sea of Mexico?
No. They were too busy talking about protecting the Pacific and Atlantic Gulf.
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Old 10-23-2012, 11:01 AM   #65
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My head's fine. You are the one claiming that a gulf is a sea and an ocean.
I am saying that the Gulf of Mexico (notice the capitalization) is sea (notice the lack of capitalization) and ocean, as part of the Atlantic Ocean.
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Old 10-23-2012, 11:02 AM   #66
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Did either candidate address drilling for oil in the Sea of Mexico?
There is no body of water that has that formal name.
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Old 10-23-2012, 11:07 AM   #67
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How does than makes any sense regarding...well, anything?
I don't know, you're the one who brought up Iraq
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Old 10-23-2012, 11:15 AM   #68
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I am saying that the Gulf of Mexico (notice the capitalization) is sea (notice the lack of capitalization) and ocean, as part of the Atlantic Ocean.
Yes, I know what you are saying. And you're still wrong.
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Old 10-23-2012, 11:22 AM   #69
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I heard the musket is also making a comeback.
no, I think that's the smell of your brain leaking.
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Old 10-23-2012, 01:12 PM   #70
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I guess I don't see the problem here. Does Iran not go through Syria to get to the Mediterranean?
I guess our backward liberal friends are still thinking in terms of horses and bayonets. They don't realize that aircraft and a close ally on the shore of the Mediterranean constitutes an important supply route for both Hezbollah and Hamas, the two primary Iranian proxy threats to Israel.

It's hard to supply Hamas by land or by air and it's hard to ship supplies through the Suez Canal which, at least until the Obama administration got their hands on our foreign policy, has been controlled by a security ally of Israel.
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Old 10-23-2012, 01:18 PM   #71
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I would guess that he meant this in a more metaphorical sense than literal, Amno.
Yeah, whatever he meant by it, it's not a gaffe because he's been saying this for many months despite being criticized by the left. He means something specific by this language and, IMO, it's either a allusion to historical concepts of warfare (as someone theorized in a different thread) or it's about access to the Mediterranean Sea and influence over the countries that exist on that sea's shores. To the extent that people are confused by it, the shortcoming is theirs not Romney's (except perhaps the unwillingness on Romney's part to talk down to their level).
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Old 10-23-2012, 01:20 PM   #72
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No way!

Just like O literally meant that there were 57+ states in our Union............
This isn't a 57+ state situation. That was a true, albeit harmless, gaffe.
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Old 10-23-2012, 01:22 PM   #73
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I guess our backward liberal friends are still thinking in terms of horses and bayonets. They don't realize that aircraft and a close ally on the shore of the Mediterranean constitutes an important supply route for both Hezbollah and Hamas, the two primary Iranian proxy threats to Israel.

It's hard to supply Hamas by land or by air and it's hard to ship supplies through the Suez Canal which, at least until the Obama administration got their hands on our foreign policy, has been controlled by a security ally of Israel.
Except he didn't say "Syria provides a route to Hezbollah and Hamas." Good effort though.
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In what context? As in Mitt's dancing horsey? Or as in we use less of them in the military now than we did 150 years ago?
Barack Obama is the one who seems to equate naval vessels with horses and bayonets, not Mitt Romney.
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Old 10-23-2012, 01:24 PM   #75
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Yeah, whatever he meant by it, it's not a gaffe because he's been saying this for many months
It's not a gaffe, if you say it a lot.

If it is wrong or non-sensical, if you say it a lot, does it then cross over to stupidity or lie?
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