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http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012...roup-on-radar/

State Department emails from day of Libya attack show Al Qaeda-tied group on radar

By Chad Pergram

Published October 23, 2012

FoxNews.com

Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012...#ixzz2ABA6n3a7


A series of internal State Department emails obtained by Fox News shows some some of the initial assessments of last month's deadly consulate attack in Libya, including one email within hours of the attack that noted that the group Ansar al Sharia had claimed responsibility.

Ansar al Sharia has been declared by the State Department to be a an Al Qaeda-affiliated group. A member of the group suspected of participating in the Sept. 11 attack in Benghazi has been arrested and is being held in Tunisia.

The emails obtained by Fox News were sent by the State Department to a variety of national security platforms, whose addresses have been redacted, including the White House Situation Room, the Pentagon, the FBI and the Director of National Intelligence.

Fox News was told that an estimated 300 to 400 national security figures received these emails in real time almost as the raid was playing out and concluding. People who received these emails work directly under the nation’s top national security, military and diplomatic officials, Fox News was told.

The timestamps on the emails are all Eastern Time and often include the subheading SBU…which is shorthand for “Sensitive But Unclassified.”

The first email indicates that U.S. Ambassador Chris Stevens and other personnel were “in the compound safe haven.” Officials later discovered that Stevens and three other Americans had died in the attack.

The first email was sent at 4:05 p.m. ET with the subject line “U.S. Diplomatic Mission in Benghazi Under Attack (SBU).”

“The Regional Security Officer reports the diplomatic mission is under attack," the email reads. "Embassy Tripoli reports approximately 20 armed people fired shots; explosions have been heard as well. Ambassador Stevens, who is currently in Benghazi, and four COM personnel are in the compound safe haven. The 17th of February militia is providing security support.

"The operations Center will provide updates as available.”

The second email came at 4:54 p.m. ET, with a subject line “Update 1: U.S. Diplomatic Mission in Benghazi (SBU)"

“Embassy Tripoli reports the firing at the U.S. Diplomatic Mission in Benghazi has stopped and the compound has been cleared. A response team is on site attempting to locate COM personnel.”

The third email came at 6:07 p.m. ET and was sent to a different email list but still includes the White House Situation Room address and a subject line of “Update 2: Ansar al-Sharia Claims Responsibility for Benghazi Attack (SBU).”

“Embassy Tripoli reports the group claimed responsibility on Facebook and Twitter and has called for an attack on Embassy Tripoli," the email reads.

Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012...#ixzz2AB9lsYce
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Old 10-25-2012, 01:00 PM   #166
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Absolutely that the instances were true. In the future I'll be sure to spell things out for you more clearly.
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Old 10-25-2012, 01:08 PM   #167
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This is exactly what I'm referring to. What you see as a teacher using a child as a political pawn, I see as a lesson in activism for a child.

Seriously, did you really think in a million years that having a teacher writing a letter to the president about the rainforests was part of a political ploy?
How about this for the assignment? Write a persuasive letter on an issue you feel is important. This can be directed at a local business, politician, or other entity.


See how much simpler that is? And, guess what, there's no political leaning in that assignment. You could even write a letter asking businesses to allow smoking. The student will probably still be influenced by their parents politics but at least it takes one politicization out of the assignment.
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Old 10-25-2012, 01:08 PM   #168
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Would you think it was just an exercise in activism or persuasive writing if the teacher had the 5th grader write a paper on why marriage should be between a man and a woman or about why the Bush tax cuts should be made permanent.

I think your post proves the point that BEP and I made.
You're comparing apples to oranges. There's a world of difference between topics there. First a paper about sexual preference and rights is a nonage appropriate for a 5th grader. Second what does a 5th grader know about tax code and ramifications?

What a 5th grader does know is that cigarettes kill people and once the teacher felt that offense could be taken to that assignment she offered another assignment. I don't think you could get any less harmless than assigning a letter to the president (I assume you're not offended by showing respect to the title) and saying "hey could you help out the rain forest?"
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Just try posting in English and that will be enough.
It is English. I w i l l s l o w i t d o w n f o r y o u.
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Pay no attention to the last part...which is a bit inflammatory.
One group of singing praise to happiness and freedom and a belief that Obama will change it. The other is singing praises directly to Hitler. I don't see the comparison.
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Old 10-25-2012, 01:32 PM   #171
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This is exactly what I'm referring to. What you see as a teacher using a child as a political pawn, I see as a lesson in activism for a child.

Seriously, did you really think in a million years that having a teacher writing a letter to the president about the rainforests was part of a political ploy?
It's not that I think she's being made to be a political pawn. The point is, the subject matter may or may not have been objectionable to a parent, but the teacher just went ahead with it anyway. If you, as a liberal, had your kid come home with an assignment to write a persuasive letter about the evils and wrongs of gun control or whatever issue you feel strongly against, methinks you would not be happy about it. The point is, these things INFLUENCE the thinking of our kids and they are almost always LIBERAL. I figured education was a good neutral subject.

I don't want my kid getting a lesson on "activism" from their teacher at friggin' school in the 5th grade. Why would you even think that's appropriate, FFS? Teach the kids to read, write, do arithmetic and leave all that other shit to me!!
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Now before you laugh, I have not been a BIG supporter of Glenn Beck. He has been way over the top many times and at times spot on.

This is one of the times where he is spot on with a seriousness that makes so much sense with the security demands, lack of it, time lines, the reason behind the lies ( cover up ), Syria, etc.

It makes way too much sense to ignore.

JUST WATCH IT BEFORE YOU JUDGE IT.


( or you can watch the bigger picture here ) http://www.video.theblaze.com/media/...ource=THEBLAZE







WHY WAS THIS GUY KILLED ?

http://www.foxnews.com/world/2012/10...official-says/

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One group of singing praise to happiness and freedom and a belief that Obama will change it. The other is singing praises directly to Hitler. I don't see the comparison.
I said pay no attention to the last part. But again, when in the history of the country has a single man been singled out like that as a messianic type figure who was gonna chaaaaange it? Do you think Reagan had classrooms of kids being taught like this? How about GW?

See, if you are a lib, you don't have a problem with this stuff. Good for you. But don't pretend it doesn't go on.
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One group of singing praise to happiness and freedom and a belief that Obama will change it. The other is singing praises directly to Hitler. I don't see the comparison.
Obtuse much?
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I said pay no attention to the last part. But again, when in the history of the country has a single man been singled out like that as a messianic type figure who was gonna chaaaaange it? Do you think Reagan had classrooms of kids being taught like this? How about GW?

See, if you are a lib, you don't have a problem with this stuff. Good for you. But don't pretend it doesn't go on.


alot of hitler ranting in this, btw,
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alot of hitler ranting in this, btw,
Seen that last time this got brought up. Difference being, they are actually praying for him. The original vid is not cut with a bunch of Hitler crap. Having said that, I'm not comfortable with it, and if it were my church, I'd definitely say something about it. But, it's at a CHURCH. These people choose that shit.

I knew you would post it the minute I posted mine. How bout this one:

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It's not that I think she's being made to be a political pawn. The point is, the subject matter may or may not have been objectionable to a parent, but the teacher just went ahead with it anyway. If you, as a liberal, had your kid come home with an assignment to write a persuasive letter about the evils and wrongs of gun control or whatever issue you feel strongly against, methinks you would not be happy about it. The point is, these things INFLUENCE the thinking of our kids and they are almost always LIBERAL. I figured education was a good neutral subject.

I don't want my kid getting a lesson on "activism" from their teacher at friggin' school in the 5th grade. Why would you even think that's appropriate, FFS? Teach the kids to read, write, do arithmetic and leave all that other shit to me!!
You don't think it's an important lesson for a child to know that they are capable of making a difference?

I understand your point and I don't think I'd be happy about somethings if I felt that strong about them like you do. The question is what if your child came home with an assignment of the like with something you strongly supported? Would you feel the same outrage?
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Seen that last time this got brought up. Difference being, they are actually praying for him. The original vid is not cut with a bunch of Hitler crap. Having said that, I'm not comfortable with it, and if it were my church, I'd definitely say something about it. But, it's at a CHURCH. These people choose that shit.

I knew you would post it the minute I posted mine. How bout this one:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/0..._n_300372.html

Couldn't find the video but here's a clip including these lyrics sang to Bush after Katrina.

Our country's stood beside us People have sent us aid. Katrina could not stop us, our hopes will never fade. Congress, Bush and FEMA People across our land Together have come to rebuild us and we join them hand-in-hand!
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How about this for the assignment? Write a persuasive letter on an issue you feel is important. This can be directed at a local business, politician, or other entity.


See how much simpler that is? And, guess what, there's no political leaning in that assignment. You could even write a letter asking businesses to allow smoking. The student will probably still be influenced by their parents politics but at least it takes one politicization out of the assignment.
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You're comparing apples to oranges. There's a world of difference between topics there. First a paper about sexual preference and rights is a nonage appropriate for a 5th grader. Second what does a 5th grader know about tax code and ramifications?

What a 5th grader does know is that cigarettes kill people and once the teacher felt that offense could be taken to that assignment she offered another assignment. I don't think you could get any less harmless than assigning a letter to the president (I assume you're not offended by showing respect to the title) and saying "hey could you help out the rain forest?"
Yes, there's a difference between the topics there. The main difference is that you agree politically with one set (and therefore you seem blinded to the fact that they're political) and the other set is obvious politics to you. I'm way ahead of you on this.
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