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Old 10-23-2012, 08:19 PM  
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USS Obama going down, Libya emails to Obama's administration.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012...roup-on-radar/

State Department emails from day of Libya attack show Al Qaeda-tied group on radar

By Chad Pergram

Published October 23, 2012

FoxNews.com

Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012...#ixzz2ABA6n3a7


A series of internal State Department emails obtained by Fox News shows some some of the initial assessments of last month's deadly consulate attack in Libya, including one email within hours of the attack that noted that the group Ansar al Sharia had claimed responsibility.

Ansar al Sharia has been declared by the State Department to be a an Al Qaeda-affiliated group. A member of the group suspected of participating in the Sept. 11 attack in Benghazi has been arrested and is being held in Tunisia.

The emails obtained by Fox News were sent by the State Department to a variety of national security platforms, whose addresses have been redacted, including the White House Situation Room, the Pentagon, the FBI and the Director of National Intelligence.

Fox News was told that an estimated 300 to 400 national security figures received these emails in real time almost as the raid was playing out and concluding. People who received these emails work directly under the nation’s top national security, military and diplomatic officials, Fox News was told.

The timestamps on the emails are all Eastern Time and often include the subheading SBU…which is shorthand for “Sensitive But Unclassified.”

The first email indicates that U.S. Ambassador Chris Stevens and other personnel were “in the compound safe haven.” Officials later discovered that Stevens and three other Americans had died in the attack.

The first email was sent at 4:05 p.m. ET with the subject line “U.S. Diplomatic Mission in Benghazi Under Attack (SBU).”

“The Regional Security Officer reports the diplomatic mission is under attack," the email reads. "Embassy Tripoli reports approximately 20 armed people fired shots; explosions have been heard as well. Ambassador Stevens, who is currently in Benghazi, and four COM personnel are in the compound safe haven. The 17th of February militia is providing security support.

"The operations Center will provide updates as available.”

The second email came at 4:54 p.m. ET, with a subject line “Update 1: U.S. Diplomatic Mission in Benghazi (SBU)"

“Embassy Tripoli reports the firing at the U.S. Diplomatic Mission in Benghazi has stopped and the compound has been cleared. A response team is on site attempting to locate COM personnel.”

The third email came at 6:07 p.m. ET and was sent to a different email list but still includes the White House Situation Room address and a subject line of “Update 2: Ansar al-Sharia Claims Responsibility for Benghazi Attack (SBU).”

“Embassy Tripoli reports the group claimed responsibility on Facebook and Twitter and has called for an attack on Embassy Tripoli," the email reads.

Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012...#ixzz2AB9lsYce
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Old 10-23-2012, 09:42 PM   #31
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They arrested the man that made the Vid. I have just as big of a problem with that as I do the cover up. Actually I have a bigger problem with that
I agree. Dude may have been a dumbass, but last time I checked, dumbasses in America have the right to make youtube videos.
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Old 10-23-2012, 09:43 PM   #32
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Dnt **** with me dude. Im Justin Bieber
Is "Justin Bieber" code for incorrect?
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Is "Justin Bieber" code for incorrect?
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Old 10-23-2012, 09:51 PM   #34
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I agree. Dude may have been a dumbass, but last time I checked, dumbasses in America have the right to make youtube videos.
Are guys that violate their probation by using aliases after serving a year in federal prison for fraud while owing a quarter million dollars free to walk?


Dugdale pointed to a probation report citing eight allegations in which Nakoula had allegedly violated his probation. One of those was a requirement not to use aliases without permission from his probation officer, something the prosecutor said Nakoula did on at least three instances: during his fraud case, when he tried to get a passport in 2011 and during the making of the film. Dugdale said Nakoula had deceived the cast of the film as well as his probation officers.
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Having served one year in federal prison at Lompoc, California, officials couldn't determine this month whether Nakoula paid any of the court-ordered restitution of $794,700, according to probation department officials and court records.
http://www.cnn.com/2012/09/27/world/...ker/index.html
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Old 10-23-2012, 09:54 PM   #35
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Are guys that violate their probation by using aliases after serving a year in federal prison for fraud while owing a quarter million dollars free to walk?

Having served one year in federal prison at Lompoc, California, officials couldn't determine this month whether Nakoula paid any of the court-ordered restitution of $794,700, according to probation department officials and court records.
http://www.cnn.com/2012/09/27/world/...ker/index.html
He would still be on the outside & free to go to the Titty bars if not for this vid. So your hole augment holds no water IMO.

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Old 10-23-2012, 09:55 PM   #36
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I get that you guys are uber politicizing this tragedy.

I posted this quote last night but it didn't get much attention:

On Sunday, Congressional Republicans cited the administration’s response to the attack as symptomatic of larger leadership failings. “This is going to be a case study, studied for years, of a breakdown of national security at every level, failed presidential leadership — senior members of the Obama administration failed miserably,” Senator Lindsey Graham, Republican of South Carolina, said on “Fox News Sunday.”
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/10/22/us...anted=all&_r=0

Now, do you think Graham said the same thing publicly after 9/11(which was 1000 times worse)???

We knew terrorist were planning something on both tragic events and will learn from our mistakes of both.

Bush called it what it was, right away! Obama tried to cover it up with a blatant lie and his only reason for doing so was to deflect the issue until after the election. Can not ruin the dear leaders image!

Obama showed a blatant disregard for the safety of these Americans and other Americans across ME in our embassy's and consulates.

Obama & his administration = FAIL!
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Old 10-23-2012, 10:10 PM   #37
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Bush called it what it was, right away!
Right after he got done reading his childrens' book.

Bush did in fact call it an "apparent terrorist attack." Is it fair to say that 2 planes crashing into the WTC is more "apparent" than the Libya attack that occured while multiple protests were going on in the world?

What would it have changed if Obama read every email to the public as they came in? The tragedy here is that it happened, not what Obama or Romney said afterward. Considering Clinton had the WTC bombing, Bush had 9/11, forgive me if I don't freak out on Obama for having the blood of 4 people in Libya on his hands and not going live with his intel.
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He would still be on the outside & free to go to the Titty bars if not for this vid. So your hole augment holds no water IMO.

Any cool titty bars in your area?
I edited my post to add more context. And yes, if he never made the video, maybe he would still just be on probation. Crazy how when you do dumb stuff, people will bring the hammer down huh?

We have 1 titty bar(The Silver Bullet) and it's not good.
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Thats what you heard. Cool story bro.
Wanna hear what the rest of the WORLD heard?


Didnt think so.
I realize your very essence as a human being is on the line but just because some group takes responsibility for an attack, we don't take it as gospel and put out press releases.

Again, I'm not going to discuss details of this whole issue. But you want to get pissed about missed oppertunites to PREVENT terriosm, not just get the facts out but really PREVENT 3,000 american deaths. Read the State dept. nd national security briefing emails that have been declassified about Bin Laden that Bush read two weeks before 9/11.
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If Romney new this info was coming out then maybe that's why he didn't press the issue in the final debate. It's going to take care of itself.
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Are guys that violate their probation by using aliases after serving a year in federal prison for fraud while owing a quarter million dollars free to walk?


Dugdale pointed to a probation report citing eight allegations in which Nakoula had allegedly violated his probation. One of those was a requirement not to use aliases without permission from his probation officer, something the prosecutor said Nakoula did on at least three instances: during his fraud case, when he tried to get a passport in 2011 and during the making of the film. Dugdale said Nakoula had deceived the cast of the film as well as his probation officers.
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Having served one year in federal prison at Lompoc, California, officials couldn't determine this month whether Nakoula paid any of the court-ordered restitution of $794,700, according to probation department officials and court records.
http://www.cnn.com/2012/09/27/world/...ker/index.html
I did not know that...or if I did, I had forgotten it. Still, those were things he did in 2011...sure took them a long time to bust him on those parole violations.
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Old 10-23-2012, 10:24 PM   #42
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Right after he got done reading his childrens' book.

Bush did in fact call it an "apparent terrorist attack." Is it fair to say that 2 planes crashing into the WTC is more "apparent" than the Libya attack that occured while multiple protests were going on in the world?

What would it have changed if Obama read every email to the public as they came in? The tragedy here is that it happened, not what Obama or Romney said afterward. Considering Clinton had the WTC bombing, Bush had 9/11, forgive me if I don't freak out on Obama for having the blood of 4 people in Libya on his hands and not going live with his intel.


What happened is that a woman named Lamb, Undersecretary of State for DSS (Department of State Security), 2 days ago, told Issa's committee that she listened, was talking to, and recorded an almost six hour fight that resulted in the death of four Americans. She was at the State Department's Operations Center in Foggy Bottom in DC.
When that happens, there are a bunch of people that get informed. President of the US gets found---- the embassy is being attacked---Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, Director of CIA, and on and on.
What also happens is that their command centers, National Command Center (CIA), White House Situation Room--- twelve [Command Centers] that I won't bore you with. At least twelve separate Command Centers are listening to the same conversation. It went on for six hours. The question I think, besides the fact that Biden is lying about it, is Why didn't we do anything? Why didn't the United States government react?
Here we are, listening to an attack, and we didn't do a thing. We've got aircraft in Europe, aircraft in the in the Gulf, and we have the capability of doing something, and we did nothing. But for the Vice President...My point is everybody, from the moment the attack happened, in our government, and the decision-making capability, knew that it was an attack, that it was organized, that it was violent, and that it had nothing, nothing to do with a riot, an assembly of people, or a film.
This was not even close to an intelligence failure. This was prescient, actionable information. And this woman testified to it, and everyone's giving everyone a pass.
We sat by and watched the Embassy fall, and four Americans died.

Carr: Who was on the radio in the consulate in Benghazi?

HUNT: Department of State Security employee -- a DSS agent was at the operation center in Benghazi. They had a room with radios and cameras. And he makes the call; he punches the alert button. Does everything correct and calls his boss in DC.
Then he describes the attack for the whole time, until that the command center is overcome. But when she [Lamb] gets the phone call….

Carr: He's killed. He's killed. He's at the radio when he gets killed. Is that right?

HUNT: The radio stays open. It's still being recorded until it gets destroyed.
Lamb, who is in DC listening to all of this--- Clinton gets called, the President gets called, the Joint Chiefs---everybody gets called about this. This is an embassy under attack. Period. It's an automatic phone call.
And the fact that we have this recording, instantly. We know exactly the picture. By the way, he sent pictures back because he had cameras.
So, the administration knew; they watched it, let it happen, and then for eight days lied about it.



Seriously, what do you not understand about this ?
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I did not know that...or if I did, I had forgotten it. Still, those were things he did in 2011...sure took them a long time to bust him on those parole violations.
Crazy how when one of your names shows up in the paper, the law decides to shine their light on you huh?
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Crazy how when one of your names shows up in the paper, the law decides to shine their light on you huh?
If the law shined the light on him because of a video, then that is wrong. If they shined the light on him because he was on parole, then that is very different.
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They heard it, watched it, even had intel info about it before hand about recent uprisings of pocket terrorist cells around town .

It's failure, all around.
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