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Old 10-23-2012, 08:19 PM  
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USS Obama going down, Libya emails to Obama's administration.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012...roup-on-radar/

State Department emails from day of Libya attack show Al Qaeda-tied group on radar

By Chad Pergram

Published October 23, 2012

FoxNews.com

Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012...#ixzz2ABA6n3a7


A series of internal State Department emails obtained by Fox News shows some some of the initial assessments of last month's deadly consulate attack in Libya, including one email within hours of the attack that noted that the group Ansar al Sharia had claimed responsibility.

Ansar al Sharia has been declared by the State Department to be a an Al Qaeda-affiliated group. A member of the group suspected of participating in the Sept. 11 attack in Benghazi has been arrested and is being held in Tunisia.

The emails obtained by Fox News were sent by the State Department to a variety of national security platforms, whose addresses have been redacted, including the White House Situation Room, the Pentagon, the FBI and the Director of National Intelligence.

Fox News was told that an estimated 300 to 400 national security figures received these emails in real time almost as the raid was playing out and concluding. People who received these emails work directly under the nation’s top national security, military and diplomatic officials, Fox News was told.

The timestamps on the emails are all Eastern Time and often include the subheading SBU…which is shorthand for “Sensitive But Unclassified.”

The first email indicates that U.S. Ambassador Chris Stevens and other personnel were “in the compound safe haven.” Officials later discovered that Stevens and three other Americans had died in the attack.

The first email was sent at 4:05 p.m. ET with the subject line “U.S. Diplomatic Mission in Benghazi Under Attack (SBU).”

“The Regional Security Officer reports the diplomatic mission is under attack," the email reads. "Embassy Tripoli reports approximately 20 armed people fired shots; explosions have been heard as well. Ambassador Stevens, who is currently in Benghazi, and four COM personnel are in the compound safe haven. The 17th of February militia is providing security support.

"The operations Center will provide updates as available.”

The second email came at 4:54 p.m. ET, with a subject line “Update 1: U.S. Diplomatic Mission in Benghazi (SBU)"

“Embassy Tripoli reports the firing at the U.S. Diplomatic Mission in Benghazi has stopped and the compound has been cleared. A response team is on site attempting to locate COM personnel.”

The third email came at 6:07 p.m. ET and was sent to a different email list but still includes the White House Situation Room address and a subject line of “Update 2: Ansar al-Sharia Claims Responsibility for Benghazi Attack (SBU).”

“Embassy Tripoli reports the group claimed responsibility on Facebook and Twitter and has called for an attack on Embassy Tripoli," the email reads.

Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012...#ixzz2AB9lsYce
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Old 10-23-2012, 11:08 PM   #61
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The future does not belong to those who insult Islam.
“The future must not belong to those who slander the prophet of Islam but to be credible those who condemn that slander must also condemn the hate we see in the images of Jesus Christ that are desecrated or churches destroyed or the Holocaust that is denied,”

Finished your quote.
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Old 10-23-2012, 11:09 PM   #62
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I think it would have been a wise assumption. Obama did refer to "acts of terror" the next day. The question was whether the attack was initiated because of the video or was planned further in advance. Assuming it was planned earlier wouldn't be stupid, but you know what they say about assuming, which may be why Obama was waiting for more detailed intel before commenting in detail.
Oh boy, this again? Acts of terror in his speech that was well after he started talking about the incident. A term he used loosely with in the speech about all of 911.

Face it, Obama never called it an Act by Terror, or by terrorist.

Let's not offend the Muslin brothers about the terrorist out there so we can use the video for a while to find out what happened and how we can wiggle out from knowing we failed to give extra security to a group of Americans who asked for extra help and gave the administration prior intel that something was about to happen.

Seriously, Pay No Attention To The Man Behind The Curtain

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Old 10-23-2012, 11:12 PM   #63
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What does that have to do with this?

Or is this just a "look over there! a squirrel" thing?
Just wondering if anyone here was as up in arms about both the death of four Americans in Ohio and the President's response to it?
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Old 10-23-2012, 11:19 PM   #64
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Just wondering if anyone here was as up in arms about both the death of four Americans in Ohio and the President's response to it?
Crosby, Stills, Nash, and Young were.

Seriously. 42 years ago and you wanna talk about it in THIS context. I have no pity for you for the red ass you are going to get around here the next few weeks. You deserve it for epic douchiness.
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Old 10-23-2012, 11:21 PM   #65
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Face it, Obama never called it an Act by Terror, or by terrorist.
Well an email they received said "militants," so i guess he should have said militants. I guess he could have said "tearists" like Bush to appease you guys.

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we failed to give extra security to a group of Americans who asked for extra help and gave the administration prior intel that something was about to happen.
You're right, they failed to give enough security and react to prior intel. Did you give Bush a second chance?
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Old 10-23-2012, 11:21 PM   #66
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There's these things called probation rules, and if the law is made aware that you are violating them, they can and will arrest you. You should read it sometime.
just curious, who called the media and told them to go film that guy's arrest in the middle of the night? is that normal for an arrest for probation violation?
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Old 10-23-2012, 11:27 PM   #67
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Crosby, Stills, Nash, and Young were.

Seriously. 42 years ago and you wanna talk about it in THIS context. I have no pity for you for the red ass you are going to get around here the next few weeks. You deserve it for epic douchiness.
Oh noez, people might pick on me on the internetz. I guess I'll just join the "Obama the worst President ever" mass-circle-jerk you guys have even though I know of this guy named Nixon and one other applicable guy who the RNC didn't mention once this year.
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Old 10-23-2012, 11:33 PM   #68
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just curious, who called the media and told them to go film that guy's arrest in the middle of the night? is that normal for an arrest for probation violation?
How do reporters manage to show up to a house-fire or get high-res on Britney Spears' snatch?



Anyways, I'm out for the night...I hope.
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Old 10-24-2012, 12:33 AM   #69
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Are any of you old enough to have freaked out on Nixon after the 4 dead in Ohio?
yes...

anti-war demonstrations were frequently marred by violence, but the shooting in ohio was purely gratuitous...
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Old 10-24-2012, 07:06 AM   #70
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I get that you guys are uber politicizing this tragedy.

I posted this quote last night but it didn't get much attention:

On Sunday, Congressional Republicans cited the administration’s response to the attack as symptomatic of larger leadership failings. “This is going to be a case study, studied for years, of a breakdown of national security at every level, failed presidential leadership — senior members of the Obama administration failed miserably,” Senator Lindsey Graham, Republican of South Carolina, said on “Fox News Sunday.”
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/10/22/us...anted=all&_r=0

Now, do you think Graham said the same thing publicly after 9/11(which was 1000 times worse)???

What difference would that make here?
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Old 10-24-2012, 07:16 AM   #71
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Oh noez, people might pick on me on the internetz. I guess I'll just join the "Obama the worst President ever" mass-circle-jerk you guys have even though I know of this guy named Nixon and one other applicable guy who the RNC didn't mention once this year.
Nixon's big scandal was the break-in at the Watergate Hotel and the cover-up that took place afterwards. Obama's scandal right now is the refusal to provide extra security for the Libyan embassy and the cover-up that took place afterwards.

I forget, how many people died during the Watergate break-in?
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Old 10-24-2012, 07:18 AM   #72
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How do reporters manage to show up to a house-fire or get high-res on Britney Spears' snatch?



Anyways, I'm out for the night...I hope.
Don't be stupid. A house-fire is a little different from an arrest for a minor infraction like a probation violation. And the paparazzi weren't camped out outside the filmmaker's house, hoping to get a candid photo of him.
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Old 10-24-2012, 07:19 AM   #73
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Obama waited until intelligence was verified before making a definitive statements about what happened.
No he didn't. He repeatedly said this was because of the video. Which was completely wrong. Why did he have to wait to tell what really happened when he had no problem for telling a falsehood for 2 weeks?
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What difference would that make here?
I'm sure if you look real close and dig deep you'll find some logic there somewhere.
Our maybe not.
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Why did he have to wait to tell what really happened when he had no problem for telling a falsehood for 2 weeks?
The Obama team needed verification if AQ was still on the run.
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