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Old 10-25-2012, 06:02 AM  
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ZMA is the shit

Does anyone else here take it? Its Zinc, Magnesium, and B6. I take it right before bed and I get the best sleep ever. Hell, I've even had control of my dreams.

Waking up is super easy and overall I feel more like a man. Check it out if you.haven't already.
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Old 10-29-2012, 08:20 PM   #151
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Last night I only got 4 hours and woke up like I had 8. Tonight I'll get an actual 8 we'll see how I feel in the morning.
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Old 10-29-2012, 08:24 PM   #152
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Buck, I just bought this because of your suggestion. Let's see if this helps me finally get some good sleep at night.
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Old 10-29-2012, 08:28 PM   #153
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Buck, I just bought this because of your suggestion. Let's see if this helps me finally get some good sleep at night.
It doesn't help you fall asleep, it just makes the sleep you get better. Give it a few days before you judge it.

You can always take a melatonin and this at the same time.

Also it's recommended you don't eat anything with calcium in it for a while before you take it because Calcium blocks the absorption of B6 into your body.

Good luck.
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Old 10-29-2012, 08:30 PM   #154
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Buck, I just bought this because of your suggestion. Let's see if this helps me finally get some good sleep at night.
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Old 10-29-2012, 08:31 PM   #155
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Yeah, I usually don't have trouble falling asleep, it's that I wake up too often throughout the night for no reason at all.

I'll fill in with the results periodically.
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Old 10-29-2012, 08:33 PM   #156
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Old 10-30-2012, 10:54 AM   #157
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So, how did that placebo work out for you?
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Old 10-30-2012, 11:18 AM   #158
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No one kills themselves because of test. Jesus. As noted, there was probably some underlying depression but the amount of test these guys get on HRT is just enough to bring it to normal levels. I mean, I know guys shooting 3+ grams of test a week. Far as I know they are still alive.
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Old 10-30-2012, 11:32 AM   #159
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This.
The misinformation on steroids is mind boggling. Good god, people will believe anything.
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Old 10-30-2012, 11:34 AM   #160
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Not saying it was the sole cause, but both wives have reported that their husbands had recently started testosterone therapy a year or so prior to the suicide. That being said, they may have started the therapy due to an underlying depression. Correlation doesn't equate causation, and I'm aware of that.

I'm still skeptical, but I tend to be skeptical about most things. If it's too good to be true, then it likely is.
I'd say that test actually made me much HAPPIER...and I was using dosages that far exceeded the tiny doses used in HRT
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Old 10-30-2012, 11:48 AM   #161
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Here's the deal: doctors are prescribing test now just like they prescribe adderall. You pay some high dollars, pull up at a "clinic", where the parking lots if filled with high dollar japanese and european SUVs, pay a premium "consultation" fee, and you get the drug/hormone/supplement of your choice from benzos to stims to test to HGH.

We have tons of friends who do it for adderall and quite a few who do it for test. Their "diagnosis" ranges from adult ADHD, to need for weight loss (for waifish women), to adult depression.

It's just like when my friends in college used to make trips down to Mexico to the pharms down there to pick up benzos and opiates, except now you can do it right at your friendly neighborhood quack. It's not that I'm skeptical of the benefits of test, I'm skeptical of how its being used and all the societal/class bullshit that goes along with this method of drug dispensation. ****ers are getting locked up for life for slinging some weed on the street corner, but legal quacks are doling this stuff out to the rich under the aegis of the law. It's bullshit, and test has become part of that whole thing.
This is why years ago during the Bush administration they went after the small pharm who was producing some great products so they wouldn't have any competition when they opened these. Now you have seen exactly what I predicted come to fruition.

They have been doing this in Europe for a very long time. This is the first time I have heard of anything bad coming from it other than a little added aggression. Heaven forbid a male be aggressive in this country. Don't they know their balls are supposed to be kept in a locked box on the mantel?
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Old 10-30-2012, 11:59 AM   #162
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This is why years ago during the Bush administration they went after the small pharm who was producing some great products so they wouldn't have any competition when they opened these. Now you have seen exactly what I predicted come to fruition.

They have been doing this in Europe for a very long time. This is the first time I have heard of anything bad coming from it other than a little added aggression. Heaven forbid a male be aggressive in this country. Don't they know their balls are supposed to be kept in a locked box on the mantel?
Roid rage is the American way.... right?
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Old 10-30-2012, 12:05 PM   #163
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This is why years ago during the Bush administration they went after the small pharm who was producing some great products so they wouldn't have any competition when they opened these. Now you have seen exactly what I predicted come to fruition.

They have been doing this in Europe for a very long time. This is the first time I have heard of anything bad coming from it other than a little added aggression. Heaven forbid a male be aggressive in this country. Don't they know their balls are supposed to be kept in a locked box on the mantel?
Are you talking about supplement companies when you are saying "Small Pharm"? I saw you mention Ergpharm earlier when referencing them.
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Old 10-30-2012, 12:06 PM   #164
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The misinformation on steroids is mind boggling. Good god, people will believe anything.
I agree 100%. Lots of misinformation also spread by people that can get their hands on the drugs, but don't research the proper way to go about taking them.
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Old 10-30-2012, 12:09 PM   #165
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The misinformation on steroids is mind boggling. Good god, people will believe anything.
How much 'roids do I need to do to get swole?
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