Home Mail MemberMap Chat (0) Wallpapers
Go Back   ChiefsPlanet > The Lounge > D.C.

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 10-25-2012, 11:41 PM  
Direckshun Direckshun is offline
Black for Palestine
 
Direckshun's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Springpatch
Casino cash: $23999
How do you solve a problem like Maria?

How do you catch a cloud and pin it down?



http://prospect.org/article/emptiest...ection-history

The Emptiest Candidate in Presidential Election History
Mitt Romney truly believes in nothing.

Paul Waldman
October 24, 2012

As the end of this election approaches, it's worth taking a step back and asking this question: In the entire history of the United States of America, from George Washington's election in 1789 on down, has there been a single candidate as unmoored from ideological principle or belief as Mitt Romney? I'm not just throwing an insult here, I ask this question sincerely. Because I can't think of any. There have been middle-of-the road candidates, candidates eager to compromise, candidates who would divert attention to issues that weren't all that important, and even candidates who at some point in their careers undertook a meaningful position change or two. For instance, early in George H.W. Bush's career he was an outspoken supporter of abortion rights, just as Al Gore was anti-choice early in his; both changed their positions to align with their parties. But Romney truly does stand alone, not only for the sheer quantity of issues on which he has shifted, but for the frequency with which wholesale shifts have taken place.

And with the presidential debates complete, there is barely an issue area on which Romney hasn't undergone a change just in the last few weeks. I had thought that no matter what else Romney might change his mind on, if there's one thing he believes it's that the wealth and privilege of the wealthy and privilege must be maintained and enhanced. But he even flip-flopped on that, not only pledging not to cut taxes on the wealthy (in contrast to what he said during the primaries), but actually proposing a huge tax increase on them (though I seem to be the only one who has noticed that that's what Romney has in fact proposed). That neither his supporters nor his opponents believe that he really wants that just makes it all the more remarkable. I feel like we've gotten so used to the idea of Romney as a shape-shifter that what for a different candidate might have been greeted as a series of scandalous acts of cynicism was instead greeted with, "Yep, everybody saw that coming."

You have to give some strategic props to Romney for his latest ideological refashioning. He waited to unveil it until the first presidential debate, when Republicans were at an emotional low point imagining that the president they hate with such consuming venom might waltz to a second term. After that, the new foreign policy Romney we met in the final debate came as no surprise. He calculated correctly that with the election so close his base wouldn't care, that they'd accept anything that might improve their chances of getting rid of Barack Obama. Perhaps they're grumbling in their private conversations, but I doubt it. They know that what matters is winning. They also understand that keeping a President Romney in line will take some work, but that's an effort they're ready for. And that would have been true whether he presented himself as newly Moderate Mitt in the last few weeks of the campaign or not.

Romney also probably understood that if he waited long enough, the press wouldn't punish him much for an ideological refashioning either. At the end of a campaign, horse-race reporting and the focus on the most trivial of campaign quibbles goes from being a bias that colors coverage to swallowing the entirety of coverage. Who has time to write a story about Romney's latest ideological metamorphosis, when there were 18 new polls released today and there are diners in Ohio whose customers have not yet been interviewed to plumb their deep swing-votery wisdom?

In popular culture, politicians are usually portrayed in one of two ways. First you have the candidate whose polished smile and charm hide something sinister: he murdered his mistress, or he'll resort to the most immoral tactics (blackmail, vote-stealing) to win. The second version is the candidate who believes in nothing other that whatever will get him an extra vote or two and who doesn't care at all about issues, the man or woman for whom the only goal is power and for whom power is an end in itself. This caricature is often a way for television shows and movies to use the political world as a dramatic setting while avoiding ideology completely, and it's one that applies to no politician I've ever encountered. Some are more cynical than others, but they all have things they believe in and things they'd like to do. They all have some vision of what America would look like if they had their way.

But in Mitt Romney we may finally have found a candidate who lives up to the caricature. I think by now we can safely say that when it comes to the things government does and the issues that confront the nation as a whole, he truly believes in nothing. It's really quite remarkable that not only could he get so far, but that he has a real chance to become president of the United States.
Posts: 46,886
Direckshun is obviously part of the inner Circle.Direckshun is obviously part of the inner Circle.Direckshun is obviously part of the inner Circle.Direckshun is obviously part of the inner Circle.Direckshun is obviously part of the inner Circle.Direckshun is obviously part of the inner Circle.Direckshun is obviously part of the inner Circle.Direckshun is obviously part of the inner Circle.Direckshun is obviously part of the inner Circle.Direckshun is obviously part of the inner Circle.Direckshun is obviously part of the inner Circle.
  Reply With Quote
Old 10-25-2012, 11:45 PM   #2
LiveSteam LiveSteam is offline
All aboard the crazy train
 
LiveSteam's Avatar
 

Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: homeof43conferencetitles
Casino cash: $11287
God you are a tool
Posts: 17,390
LiveSteam is obviously part of the inner Circle.LiveSteam is obviously part of the inner Circle.LiveSteam is obviously part of the inner Circle.LiveSteam is obviously part of the inner Circle.LiveSteam is obviously part of the inner Circle.LiveSteam is obviously part of the inner Circle.LiveSteam is obviously part of the inner Circle.LiveSteam is obviously part of the inner Circle.LiveSteam is obviously part of the inner Circle.LiveSteam is obviously part of the inner Circle.LiveSteam is obviously part of the inner Circle.
  Reply With Quote
Old 10-25-2012, 11:53 PM   #3
Dallas Chief Dallas Chief is offline
Supporter
 
Dallas Chief's Avatar
 

Join Date: Apr 2002
Location: Jupiter, FL.
Casino cash: $9872
Hey Mittens! You are a flip flopper and a refashioner!!!

Example 1- Because we said so
Example 2- Because we said so
Example 3- Because we said so
Example 4- Because we said so

Nice copy, dump, and run. Weak sauce as usual...
Posts: 2,656
Dallas Chief wants to die in a aids tree fire.Dallas Chief wants to die in a aids tree fire.Dallas Chief wants to die in a aids tree fire.Dallas Chief wants to die in a aids tree fire.Dallas Chief wants to die in a aids tree fire.Dallas Chief wants to die in a aids tree fire.Dallas Chief wants to die in a aids tree fire.Dallas Chief wants to die in a aids tree fire.Dallas Chief wants to die in a aids tree fire.Dallas Chief wants to die in a aids tree fire.Dallas Chief wants to die in a aids tree fire.
  Reply With Quote
Old 10-25-2012, 11:54 PM   #4
stevieray stevieray is offline
hurts so good
 
stevieray's Avatar
 

Join Date: Aug 2000
Casino cash: $11479
damn, get a life.
Posts: 37,039
stevieray is obviously part of the inner Circle.stevieray is obviously part of the inner Circle.stevieray is obviously part of the inner Circle.stevieray is obviously part of the inner Circle.stevieray is obviously part of the inner Circle.stevieray is obviously part of the inner Circle.stevieray is obviously part of the inner Circle.stevieray is obviously part of the inner Circle.stevieray is obviously part of the inner Circle.stevieray is obviously part of the inner Circle.stevieray is obviously part of the inner Circle.
  Reply With Quote
Old 10-26-2012, 12:48 AM   #5
aturnis aturnis is offline
MVP
 
aturnis's Avatar
 

Join Date: Apr 2001
Location: Iowa
Casino cash: $8907
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dallas Chief View Post
Hey Mittens! You are a flip flopper and a refashioner!!!

Example 1- Because we said so
Example 2- Because we said so
Example 3- Because we said so
Example 4- Because we said so

Nice copy, dump, and run. Weak sauce as usual...
A Republicans greatest tool. Denial.

Posts: 10,814
aturnis Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.aturnis Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.aturnis Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.aturnis Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.aturnis Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.aturnis Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.aturnis Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.aturnis Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.aturnis Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.aturnis Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.aturnis Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.
  Reply With Quote
Old 10-26-2012, 02:45 AM   #6
jjjayb jjjayb is offline
Veteran
 
jjjayb's Avatar
 

Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: Back in K.C. baby!!!!
Casino cash: $8318
But hey, at least Obama is consistent...

Posts: 4,968
jjjayb would the whole thing.jjjayb would the whole thing.jjjayb would the whole thing.jjjayb would the whole thing.jjjayb would the whole thing.jjjayb would the whole thing.jjjayb would the whole thing.jjjayb would the whole thing.jjjayb would the whole thing.jjjayb would the whole thing.jjjayb would the whole thing.
  Reply With Quote
Old 10-26-2012, 06:13 AM   #7
blaise blaise is offline
Gonzo = Sexy Bitch
 

Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Plano, TX
Casino cash: $575
His positions are evolving.
Posts: 21,108
blaise is obviously part of the inner Circle.blaise is obviously part of the inner Circle.blaise is obviously part of the inner Circle.blaise is obviously part of the inner Circle.blaise is obviously part of the inner Circle.blaise is obviously part of the inner Circle.blaise is obviously part of the inner Circle.blaise is obviously part of the inner Circle.blaise is obviously part of the inner Circle.blaise is obviously part of the inner Circle.blaise is obviously part of the inner Circle.
  Reply With Quote
Old 10-26-2012, 07:20 AM   #8
bsp4444 bsp4444 is offline
Veteran
 
bsp4444's Avatar
 

Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: East of Lee's Summit, MO
Casino cash: $8194
Quote:
Originally Posted by jjjayb View Post
But hey, at least Obama is consistent...

How is this video a slam against Obama? His views are consistent and his policies back them.
Posts: 1,121
bsp4444 has just been standing around suckin' on a big ol' chili dog.bsp4444 has just been standing around suckin' on a big ol' chili dog.bsp4444 has just been standing around suckin' on a big ol' chili dog.bsp4444 has just been standing around suckin' on a big ol' chili dog.bsp4444 has just been standing around suckin' on a big ol' chili dog.bsp4444 has just been standing around suckin' on a big ol' chili dog.bsp4444 has just been standing around suckin' on a big ol' chili dog.bsp4444 has just been standing around suckin' on a big ol' chili dog.bsp4444 has just been standing around suckin' on a big ol' chili dog.bsp4444 has just been standing around suckin' on a big ol' chili dog.bsp4444 has just been standing around suckin' on a big ol' chili dog.
  Reply With Quote
Old 10-26-2012, 07:47 AM   #9
LiveSteam LiveSteam is offline
All aboard the crazy train
 
LiveSteam's Avatar
 

Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: homeof43conferencetitles
Casino cash: $11287
Quote:
Originally Posted by bsp4444 View Post
How is this video a slam against Obama? His views are consistent and his policies back them.
Im eighteen & I like it.
Posts: 17,390
LiveSteam is obviously part of the inner Circle.LiveSteam is obviously part of the inner Circle.LiveSteam is obviously part of the inner Circle.LiveSteam is obviously part of the inner Circle.LiveSteam is obviously part of the inner Circle.LiveSteam is obviously part of the inner Circle.LiveSteam is obviously part of the inner Circle.LiveSteam is obviously part of the inner Circle.LiveSteam is obviously part of the inner Circle.LiveSteam is obviously part of the inner Circle.LiveSteam is obviously part of the inner Circle.
  Reply With Quote
Old 10-26-2012, 08:08 AM   #10
theelusiveeightrop theelusiveeightrop is offline
Spiraling down the Drain
 
theelusiveeightrop's Avatar
 

Join Date: Oct 2012
Location: Dante's Ninth Circle
Casino cash: $12623
Forward.
__________________
"We're both part of the same hypocrisy, Senator, but never think it applies to my family."

2014 Adopt a Chief - Travis Kelce #87
Posts: 20,341
theelusiveeightrop is obviously part of the inner Circle.theelusiveeightrop is obviously part of the inner Circle.theelusiveeightrop is obviously part of the inner Circle.theelusiveeightrop is obviously part of the inner Circle.theelusiveeightrop is obviously part of the inner Circle.theelusiveeightrop is obviously part of the inner Circle.theelusiveeightrop is obviously part of the inner Circle.theelusiveeightrop is obviously part of the inner Circle.theelusiveeightrop is obviously part of the inner Circle.theelusiveeightrop is obviously part of the inner Circle.theelusiveeightrop is obviously part of the inner Circle.
  Reply With Quote
Old 10-26-2012, 09:50 AM   #11
Dallas Chief Dallas Chief is offline
Supporter
 
Dallas Chief's Avatar
 

Join Date: Apr 2002
Location: Jupiter, FL.
Casino cash: $9872
Quote:
Originally Posted by aturnis View Post
A Republicans greatest tool. Denial.

A Democrats greatest tool...

Posts: 2,656
Dallas Chief wants to die in a aids tree fire.Dallas Chief wants to die in a aids tree fire.Dallas Chief wants to die in a aids tree fire.Dallas Chief wants to die in a aids tree fire.Dallas Chief wants to die in a aids tree fire.Dallas Chief wants to die in a aids tree fire.Dallas Chief wants to die in a aids tree fire.Dallas Chief wants to die in a aids tree fire.Dallas Chief wants to die in a aids tree fire.Dallas Chief wants to die in a aids tree fire.Dallas Chief wants to die in a aids tree fire.
  Reply With Quote
Old 10-26-2012, 10:08 AM   #12
CaliforniaChief CaliforniaChief is offline
2014 American League Champions
 
CaliforniaChief's Avatar
 

Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: So Cal
Casino cash: $10004378
Quote:
Originally Posted by bsp4444 View Post
How is this video a slam against Obama? His views are consistent and his policies back them.
What policies? Oh, you must mean platitudes. It's the same rhetoric and the same results.

The more things change, the more they stay the same.
Posts: 13,336
CaliforniaChief has enough rep power to blowy ou to bits.CaliforniaChief has enough rep power to blowy ou to bits.CaliforniaChief has enough rep power to blowy ou to bits.CaliforniaChief has enough rep power to blowy ou to bits.CaliforniaChief has enough rep power to blowy ou to bits.CaliforniaChief has enough rep power to blowy ou to bits.CaliforniaChief has enough rep power to blowy ou to bits.CaliforniaChief has enough rep power to blowy ou to bits.CaliforniaChief has enough rep power to blowy ou to bits.CaliforniaChief has enough rep power to blowy ou to bits.CaliforniaChief has enough rep power to blowy ou to bits.
  Reply With Quote
Old 10-26-2012, 10:09 AM   #13
Comrade Crapski Comrade Crapski is offline
Banned
 

Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: Sea of Green 23.4
Casino cash: $5000
Quote:
Originally Posted by CaliforniaChief View Post
What policies? Oh, you must mean platitudes. It's the same rhetoric and the same results.

The more things change, the more they stay the same.
bsp444 is a jabbering apparatchik.
Posts: 3,833
Comrade Crapski is too fat/Omaha.Comrade Crapski is too fat/Omaha.Comrade Crapski is too fat/Omaha.Comrade Crapski is too fat/Omaha.Comrade Crapski is too fat/Omaha.Comrade Crapski is too fat/Omaha.Comrade Crapski is too fat/Omaha.Comrade Crapski is too fat/Omaha.Comrade Crapski is too fat/Omaha.Comrade Crapski is too fat/Omaha.Comrade Crapski is too fat/Omaha.
  Reply With Quote
Old 10-26-2012, 10:11 AM   #14
loochy loochy is online now
That's what she said.
 
loochy's Avatar
 

Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: TECKSIS
Casino cash: $11880
Dude EVERY successful politician believes in nothing. How do you think they became successful politicians in the first place?
__________________
Please note that any racist, sexist, or otherwise outrageous opinions expressed in this post have been made for comedic or trolling purposes only and are not the actual opinions of loochy or any affiliated entities. Reader discretion is advised.

Quote:
Originally Posted by big nasty kcnut View Post
yeah i may be a retard but I'll be the one banging your girlfriend when you're out with your friends.
Posts: 19,403
loochy is obviously part of the inner Circle.loochy is obviously part of the inner Circle.loochy is obviously part of the inner Circle.loochy is obviously part of the inner Circle.loochy is obviously part of the inner Circle.loochy is obviously part of the inner Circle.loochy is obviously part of the inner Circle.loochy is obviously part of the inner Circle.loochy is obviously part of the inner Circle.loochy is obviously part of the inner Circle.loochy is obviously part of the inner Circle.
  Reply With Quote
Old 10-26-2012, 10:33 AM   #15
Taco John Taco John is offline
12on Paul
 
Taco John's Avatar
 

Join Date: Jun 2001
Casino cash: $10273
How do you stop a problem like someone posting gay thread titles?
__________________
Ehyeh asher ehyeh.
Posts: 51,271
Taco John is blessed with 50/50 Hindsight.Taco John is blessed with 50/50 Hindsight.Taco John is blessed with 50/50 Hindsight.Taco John is blessed with 50/50 Hindsight.Taco John is blessed with 50/50 Hindsight.Taco John is blessed with 50/50 Hindsight.Taco John is blessed with 50/50 Hindsight.Taco John is blessed with 50/50 Hindsight.Taco John is blessed with 50/50 Hindsight.Taco John is blessed with 50/50 Hindsight.Taco John is blessed with 50/50 Hindsight.
  Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On

Forum Jump




All times are GMT -6. The time now is 10:56 AM.


This is a test for a client's site.
A new website that shows member-created construction site listings that need fill or have excess fill. Dirt Monkey @ https://DirtMonkey.net
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.0
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.