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Old 10-27-2012, 08:53 PM  
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Looks like James Harden has been To the Rockets for Jeremey Lamb, Kevin Martin and future picks. Plus... this is a general NBA thread.
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Old 04-16-2013, 06:28 PM   #2971
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TMac is going to chuck way more shots up than Captain Jack would do in the limited role time.

in 10 minutes TMac will have 11 shots up already and more times than not you are going to get the streaky TMac.
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Old 04-16-2013, 06:32 PM   #2972
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TMac is going to chuck way more shots up than Captain Jack would do in the limited role time.

in 10 minutes TMac will have 11 shots up already and more times than not you are going to get the streaky TMac.
If he does, Pop will have him on the bench as soon as he raises up to take the 4th shot.
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Old 04-16-2013, 06:36 PM   #2973
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T-mac is actually a ridiculously smart player that has a knack for making the right decision - be it to pass or to shoot.

Unfortunately, he's old, brittle, and has lost virtually all of the athleticism that made him so formidable in his youth.

Desperation signing for sure, but not a bad one. Still, I would not be surprised if the spurs get knocked out in the 1st round again, especially with all the injuries.
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Old 04-16-2013, 06:37 PM   #2974
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Yea, they peaked too early....too many injuries right now, they have actually been pretty bad to average the last month or so.
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Old 04-16-2013, 06:38 PM   #2975
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Maybe they make a move for Allen Iverson too? Jordan is only ten years removed, I bet hes got something in the tank!
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Old 04-16-2013, 06:38 PM   #2976
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I guess they were saying that TMac had been in China playing this season and was fairly decent, so hes not out of shape. Still, its China, but he wasnt completely awful.
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Old 04-16-2013, 11:37 PM   #2977
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As a Thunder fan Stephen Jackson scared me. McGrady will have no impact on the playoffs.

Steph Curry nor Harden would get the Thunder past the Heat IMO. If they beat the Heat it will be because Durant and Westbrook go off, and Ibaka/Brooks grow up. Martin isn't the scorer Curry or Harden is but scoring isn't what they need. They need better perimeter defense. better rebounding, better lineup management, and a big that can finish easy baskets. That's not Harden or Curry. That maybe a draft pick acquired for Harden or a free agent brought in by using the amnesty on Perk.

I am encouraged by the way the Thunder have played recently, but the Heat are heavy favs.

I do find it amusing that Harden has more turnovers than Westbrook and Durant. They all play fast, and they all turnover the ball. You take the good with the bad. I love Harden, but his legend is a bit overblown in his effect on the Thunder. They have more wins, are averaging more points, giving up less points, have a higher point differential, and are the number 1 seed in the West.
Lets also remember they gave the West to the Lakers and Spurs when they made this trade. Lets also remember that Houston almost made the playoffs last year until an end of season collapse. He's a great offensive player, but needs to be a better defender to be elite. I believe he has the skills to be someday which Steph Curry does not IMO.

Yes, the Thunder would be a better team with Harden this year, but the difference isn't what is was made out to be. They very well could get as far as they were last year, and he wouldn't be the difference in them beating the Heat IMO. He could be the difference in exiting the playoffs earlier, but that remains to be seen. If you aren't winning the title who really cares.

Steph Curry would be about the same as Harden. You would had to make a decision on him this year and probably would have traded him off. He wouldn't be the missing ingredient so who cares?

We still have Lamb baking and will probably get a top 10 pick from Toronto this year. Time will tell.

Let the real season begin.
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Old 04-17-2013, 02:25 AM   #2979
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TMac is going to chuck way more shots up than Captain Jack would do in the limited role time.

in 10 minutes TMac will have 11 shots up already and more times than not you are going to get the streaky TMac.
If he does that (which I doubt he will, because he's not exactly that kind of scorer any more), he won't get any minutes at all. TMac is actually a great passer. His BB IQ is exceptional. He could very easily play within the Spurs' offense successfully.
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As a Thunder fan Stephen Jackson scared me. McGrady will have no impact on the playoffs.

Steph Curry nor Harden would get the Thunder past the Heat IMO. If they beat the Heat it will be because Durant and Westbrook go off, and Ibaka/Brooks grow up. Martin isn't the scorer Curry or Harden is but scoring isn't what they need. They need better perimeter defense. better rebounding, better lineup management, and a big that can finish easy baskets. That's not Harden or Curry. That maybe a draft pick acquired for Harden or a free agent brought in by using the amnesty on Perk.

I am encouraged by the way the Thunder have played recently, but the Heat are heavy favs.

I do find it amusing that Harden has more turnovers than Westbrook and Durant. They all play fast, and they all turnover the ball. You take the good with the bad. I love Harden, but his legend is a bit overblown in his effect on the Thunder. They have more wins, are averaging more points, giving up less points, have a higher point differential, and are the number 1 seed in the West.
Lets also remember they gave the West to the Lakers and Spurs when they made this trade. Lets also remember that Houston almost made the playoffs last year until an end of season collapse. He's a great offensive player, but needs to be a better defender to be elite. I believe he has the skills to be someday which Steph Curry does not IMO.

Yes, the Thunder would be a better team with Harden this year, but the difference isn't what is was made out to be. They very well could get as far as they were last year, and he wouldn't be the difference in them beating the Heat IMO. He could be the difference in exiting the playoffs earlier, but that remains to be seen. If you aren't winning the title who really cares.

Steph Curry would be about the same as Harden. You would had to make a decision on him this year and probably would have traded him off. He wouldn't be the missing ingredient so who cares?

We still have Lamb baking and will probably get a top 10 pick from Toronto this year. Time will tell.

Let the real season begin.
agree with pretty much all of this. Pretty much every great team I can think of has at least one guy that's just a little crazy and Jackson was it for the Spurs.

As for Harden, he reminds me of the dallas situation when they had dirk, nash and finley. I honestly believe dirk got a lot better after nash left simply because he had to create his own shot so much more often afterwards.

The only thing is they could have gotten so much more back for Harden than Kevin Martin.

Don't know much about Lamb, but the guy I think could be an absolute steal is perry jones 3.

all said and done though, this is still Lebron's world.
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agree with pretty much all of this. Pretty much every great team I can think of has at least one guy that's just a little crazy and Jackson was it for the Spurs.

As for Harden, he reminds me of the dallas situation when they had dirk, nash and finley. I honestly believe dirk got a lot better after nash left simply because he had to create his own shot so much more often afterwards.

The only thing is they could have gotten so much more back for Harden than Kevin Martin.

Don't know much about Lamb, but the guy I think could be an absolute steal is perry jones 3.

all said and done though, this is still Lebron's world.
LeBron's World is a good way to put it.

I like Lamb. He's just being brought along really slow. Hopefully, all those D league games will pay off as they did with Reggie Jackson. Plus, you get a top 10 most like from Toronto, and another first from Dallas sooner or later. The trade probably can't be determined until at least 3 years from now and the Thunder very well may be the losers. I just don't think Harden was the difference in winning in LeBron's World as you put it. I've said before I would have rather amnesty Perk or trade Ibaka instead to acquire cheaper pieces so its not like I'm shitting on Harden. I'm just saying so far it hasn't made any difference on the season so far. Now if Martin takes a shit on the playoffs that's a different story, but still don't believe it would have made a difference in June.
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If he does that (which I doubt he will, because he's not exactly that kind of scorer any more), he won't get any minutes at all. TMac is actually a great passer. His BB IQ is exceptional. He could very easily play within the Spurs' offense successfully.
Yes, the Spurs aren't asking him to come in and score 20 points a game. They're looking for a consistent 8-12 points.
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It would not surprise me to see them get knocked out early in the playoffs. Just my 2 cents.
All their players will be back in time for the playoffs.
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