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Old 10-30-2012, 02:59 PM  
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Old 06-17-2013, 08:31 PM   #991
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THose were not flaws...they were the original way they were presented and they MADE Lucas who he is now...surely you can see that sometimes, things are what they are and nobody would have a problem with the originals. But hey, CGI the **** out of it. It's EASY...
What are you talking about? Are you seriously suggesting that Lucasfilms was "wrong" to re-cut a scene in Empire with the actor that portrayed him in four other movies? Or that having ILM clean up all of the artifacts surrounding the special effects in the first three movies?

Do you understand that these movies will be sold for generations to come? What kind sense would it makes to ignore such flaws, especially if they are correctable?
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Old 06-17-2013, 08:38 PM   #992
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Sure, whatever. Or maybe people who appreciate unbastardized films which are presented the way they were meant to be.
They were meant to be presented like they have been for almost the past decade. Limitations VFX were the reason they weren't done initially.

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I think it is there. But we'll never know, cuz the guy won't release them.
If there was money to be made, they would be available. But you have to realize that with each passing decade, the "importance" of such a release wanes exponentially.
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Old 06-17-2013, 08:44 PM   #993
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the only thing I truly hated about the special edition of the original trilogy was putting Hayden christianson at the end of Return of the Jedi. That was just downright stupid. The rest of it I can live with because it didn't really change anything. Other than the Han shot first thing which I really couldn't care less about.
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Old 06-17-2013, 08:50 PM   #994
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the only thing I truly hated about the special edition of the original trilogy was putting Hayden christianson at the end of Return of the Jedi. That was just downright stupid. The rest of it I can live with because it didn't really change anything. Other than the Han shot first thing which I really couldn't care less about.
I agree. When I first heard about that change to Christensen, I laughed because I thought my leg was being pulled. Not one of my finer moments. But future generations won't know the difference, so whatever.

And personally, I thought that the Emperor and Vader's holographic transmission in Empire was long overdue for correction and I really liked the end result.

It made for a much more cohesive trilogy, IMO.
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Old 06-17-2013, 09:07 PM   #995
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Yea really the Han shooting first was the only egregious issue, but honestly the bluray release are much better because they shoot at roughly the same time. Do I personally feel it still hurts Hans character? Sure but that's what made Han shooting first great! It showed that he didn't start out as a 'good guy', he was legitimately bad in certain respects which made his translation to 'good' more powerful. Bluray is better but it still weakens how 'bad' Han was at the start.

Really the only other bit that bugs me about the newest editions is still the Jabba scene in Star Wars! I know the original shot they had to work with made it goofy when Jabba was turned into a giant slug, but still that scene is ****ed. Hopefully tech will allow them to reedit it at some point so Han doesn't walk all over Jabba's tail. Heh no feared gangster is going to let someone live after that...
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Old 06-17-2013, 09:12 PM   #996
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The jabba scene and greedo are the worst parts for me, as well, although I was never a big fan of all the CGI atmospheric crap he added. Cleaning up the space battles was one thing, the colored boxes around the ships should be cleaned up, but I don't give a shit what's outside the windows on cloud city. The practical sets in the original gave the environments an illusion of reality that Lucas' special addition "improvements" basically destroyed.
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Yea really the Han shooting first was the only egregious issue, but honestly the bluray release are much better because they shoot at roughly the same time. Do I personally feel it still hurts Hans character? Sure but that's what made Han shooting first great! It showed that he didn't start out as a 'good guy', he was legitimately bad in certain respects which made his translation to 'good' more powerful. Bluray is better but it still weakens how 'bad' Han was at the start.

Really the only other bit that bugs me about the newest editions is still the Jabba scene in Star Wars! I know the original shot they had to work with made it goofy when Jabba was turned into a giant slug, but still that scene is ****ed. Hopefully tech will allow them to reedit it at some point so Han doesn't walk all over Jabba's tail. Heh no feared gangster is going to let someone live after that...
I'm not really a fan of the Jabba scene, either (but honestly, I've never been a Jabba fan, period). But from my understanding, the only way they could make that shot work was for him to walk on tail because in the original footage, he walks behind him.
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Old 06-17-2013, 09:15 PM   #998
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I'm not really a fan of the Jabba scene, either (but honestly, I've never been a Jabba fan, period). But from my understanding, the only way they could make that shot work was for him to walk on tail because in the original footage, he walks behind him.
That's correct.
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The jabba scene and greedo are the worst parts for me, as well, although I was never a big fan of all the CGI atmospheric crap he added. Cleaning up the space battles was one thing, but I don't give a shit what's outside the windows on cloud city. The practical effects in the original gave the environments an illusion of reality that Lucas' special addition "improvements" basically destroyed.
See, and I always felt the opposite. Here you've got this great spaceport, yet it's devoid of interesting denizens. And I don't think he could have that city populated as he did in TPM yet in ANH, have it relatively barren.

I thought the Bespin scenes were cool, too. In fact, I wished at the time that there was more.
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Old 06-17-2013, 09:18 PM   #1000
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See, and I always felt the opposite. Here you've got this great spaceport, yet it's devoid of interesting denizens. And I don't think he could have that city populated as he did in TPM yet in ANH, have it relatively barren.

I thought the Bespin scenes were cool, too. In fact, I wished at the time that there was more.
I think it wouldn't have bothered me as much if the technology had been there in the 90s to actually pull it off, which it wasn't. It wasn't so much that it was there, as that it looked so obviously computer generated. So fake. That's what I mean about the illusion of reality being shattered.
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Old 06-17-2013, 09:24 PM   #1001
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I think it wouldn't have bothered me as much if the technology had been there in the 90s to actually pull it off, which it wasn't. It wasn't so much that it was there, as that it looked so obviously computer generated. So fake. That's what I mean about the illusion of reality being shattered.
Haven't they been redone since the 90's? I'll have to watch the Special Edition trilogy from 2004 again, I guess.
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Haven't they been redone since the 90's? I'll have to watch the Special Edition trilogy from 2004 again, I guess.
That should be what I have on DVD, the 2004 edition. I have no idea what they look like in the latest blu-ray release, though. I've given uncle george enough of my money for now. I'll wait for the 25-disk super-ultra-4D-sexovision set in 2025.
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That should be what I have on DVD, the 2004 edition. I have no idea what they look like in the latest blu-ray release, though. I've given uncle george enough of my money for now. I'll wait for the 25-disk super-ultra-4D-sexovision set in 2025.
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the only thing I truly hated about the special edition of the original trilogy was putting Hayden christianson at the end of Return of the Jedi. That was just downright stupid. The rest of it I can live with because it didn't really change anything. Other than the Han shot first thing which I really couldn't care less about.
Pretty much how I feel.
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Well, to me anyway it's like a beautiful woman who keeps getting plastic surgery to continually improve her looks...and at the end of the day the finished product is never finished an looks worse than the original. But technology marches on, and I guess people seem to like the changes.
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