Elections So, why is Mitt going to lose? - Page 2

**Mr. Kotter** · 12:07 PM

Poll Forthcoming.

Bottom-line for me: Obama hasn't been great, but Mitt is an awful candidate for America in 2012. For what it's worth, he'd have been a fine candidate for the GOP in the 1880s....but this ain't 1880.

290-248....you read it here.

FTR, the odds are 3:1, or 4:1. So, yes, I could end up being wrong...just sayin'.

Please discuss...

**Mr. Kotter** · 11-02-2012, 12:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Brainiac

If Romney loses this election (I'm not ready to concede that as a fait accompli), a major reason (albeit not the only reason) will be the extreme right-wing policies of the Republican party.

Romney has several hurdles to overcome in his race against Obama. He is being held back by the Todd Akins and Richard Mourdocks of his own party who make idiotic comments about rape and God's will and women's bodies shutting down in cases of "legitimate" rape. He's being held back by the Michelle Bachmans and the Rick Santorums who are hell-bent to impose their strict moral and religious values on a voting bloc that doesn't share those values. And to some extent he's also being held back by the policy failures of the Bush administration.

Romney has been by no means a perfect candidate. He waited far too long to repudiate the attacks on his personal record, and he didn't hit Obama nearly hard enough on the current Benghazi scandal in the last debate. But the major problem for the Romney candidacy is that he was put in the very difficult position of having to convince the Tea Partiers that he was conservative enough to get the Republican nomination, and now that conservatism (faux that it may be) is unappealing to a large percentage of voters.

Excellent post. I agree with about 90% of it (sans the Benghazi bit--premature, at best IMHO.) Until the GOP changes from their current track, they will be mired in their status as the minority party in this country.

ChiefsCountry · 11-02-2012, 12:55 PM

Its because the Redskins won on Sunday.

**Mr. Kotter** · 11-02-2012, 01:00 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry

Its because the Redskins won on Sunday.

That means you'll be a Panthers fan this weekend, eh?

Pawnmower · 11-02-2012, 01:01 PM

I'm sure being an incumbent and out-raising your opponent 600M to 400M has nothing to do with it...

LOL

Why aren't their more realistic answers available, this poll is about as effective as congress.

Detoxing · 11-02-2012, 01:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brainiac

If Romney loses this election (I'm not ready to concede that as a fait accompli), a major reason (albeit not the only reason) will be the extreme right-wing policies of the Republican party.

Romney has several hurdles to overcome in his race against Obama. He is being held back by the Todd Akins and Richard Mourdocks of his own party who make idiotic comments about rape and God's will and women's bodies shutting down in cases of "legitimate" rape. He's being held back by the Michelle Bachmans and the Rick Santorums who are hell-bent to impose their strict moral and religious values on a voting bloc that doesn't share those values. And to some extent he's also being held back by the policy failures of the Bush administration.

Romney has been by no means a perfect candidate. He waited far too long to repudiate the attacks on his personal record, and he didn't hit Obama nearly hard enough on the current Benghazi scandal in the last debate. But the major problem for the Romney candidacy is that he was put in the very difficult position of having to convince the Tea Partiers that he was conservative enough to get the Republican nomination, and now that conservatism (faux that it may be) is unappealing to a large percentage of voters.

Very nice.

ChiefsCountry · 11-02-2012, 01:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Kotter

That means you'll be a Panthers fan this weekend, eh?

Go Cam Newton and the Panthers!

**Mr. Kotter** · 11-02-2012, 01:06 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry

Go Cam Newton and the Panthers!

Glad to see you do still have a sense of humor...

**patteeu** · 11-02-2012, 01:07 PM

Great thread from a great poster.

Edit: Oops, wrong thread.

**RNR** · 11-02-2012, 01:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by patteeu

Great thread from a great poster.

Edit: Oops, wrong thread.

**Mr. Kotter** · 11-02-2012, 01:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by patteeu

Great thread from a great poster.

Edit: Oops, wrong thread.

douchey post, from a douchey poster.

Edit: Ooops, pompous douchey post, from a pompous douchey poster.

cosmo20002 · 11-02-2012, 01:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Literature

I'm sure the Republican Party would have loved a Mormon candidate in 1880.

Actually, the 1880s R were probably alot more inclusive than the current version.

cosmo20002 · 11-02-2012, 01:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by carlos3652

Mitts a mormom - and the conservative religious right, will have a hard time voting for him unless they are sold that Obama is the Devil.

Mormon > Muslim

/religious right

Munson · 11-02-2012, 01:42 PM

Obama is a great candidate.........for Venezuela, Cuba, Russia, France, Spain, and Greece.

If Mitt loses, it will be because the welfare/food stamp/Obamaphone/big gov't/redistribution voters outnumber the common sense voters. The U.S. will become a welfare state.

cosmo20002 · 11-02-2012, 01:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brainiac

If Romney loses this election (I'm not ready to concede that as a fait accompli), a major reason (albeit not the only reason) will be the extreme right-wing policies of the Republican party.

It is plausible that Mitt losing could come down to 1 single thing: "Let them Go Bankrupt"

If Ohio is the difference, and he really can't win without it, his joining with the ideologues on that one thing could very well be the difference.

**Mr. Kotter** · 11-02-2012, 01:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Munson

Obama is a great candidate.........for Venezuela, Cuba, Russia, France, Spain, and Greece.

If Mitt loses, it will be because the welfare/food stamp/Obamaphone/big gov't/redistribution voters outnumber the common sense voters. The U.S. will become a welfare state.

Dittos, Rush!

View Poll Results: The biggest reasons that Mitt will lose next week is:
The liberal media's conspiracy	7	14.58%
Stupid voters	16	33.33%
Mitt's a lousy candidate	26	54.17%
The election is rigged!	2	4.17%
The impact of Sandy	4	8.33%
The gender gap	10	20.83%
Mitt's a Mormon	7	14.58%
All of the Above	0	0%
All of the Above, except the Sandy thing	0	0%
Whatever GAZ says...	1	2.08%
Multiple Choice Poll. Voters: 48. You may not vote on this poll

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