Home Mail MemberMap Chat (0) Wallpapers
Go Back   ChiefsPlanet > The Lounge > D.C.

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 11-03-2012, 05:02 PM  
Direckshun Direckshun is offline
Black for Palestine
 
Direckshun's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Springpatch
Casino cash: $23954
Attention petezg23: Bets are taxes on bullshit.

As many of you know, I am engaged in two high-stakes bets this election season, and at this point I am surely to win them. So whatever last statements LVNHACK and sportsshrink need to say here in DC, please say them, because your time is short.

But it is too frequently the case here in DC that somebody can just spout off bullshit and never have to be accountable for it.

That's why I really like betting. It proves to you folks that I'm always genuinely sincere in my statements, and it exposes people like patteeu who just say shit as frauds due to his complete resilience from ever entering into a bet that give his words consequences.

So allow this thread's purpose to be twofold: (1.) all hail the forced intellectual honesty of a bet, and (2.) to put Pete's ass on the line for his hilarious prediction that Romney will win Ohio.

Pete: if you think Romney is going to win Ohio, then enter into a bet with me.

I'll let you pick the terms, so long as they aren't unequal.

I'll let you decide the consequences, so long as they aren't unequal.

But it has to be hinged on one idea: that if Obama wins Ohio, you lose, and I win.

Time to pay your taxes, Pete.

http://marginalrevolution.com/margin...-bullshit.html

A Bet is a Tax on Bullshit
by Alex Tabarrok
on November 2, 2012 at 7:35 am

Nate Silver, whose models give Obama a high probability of winning reelection, has offered one of his critics a bet. “Putting your money where your mouth is,” is a time-honored principle of integrity in my view but the NYTimes Public Editor is very upset. Margaret Sullivan, however, never offers an argument against betting instead treating it as unseemly.

Quote:
[Betting is] inappropriate for a Times journalist, which is how Mr. Silver is seen by the public even though he’s not a regular staff member.

“I wouldn’t want to see it become newsroom practice,” said the associate managing editor for standards, Philip B. Corbett. He described Mr. Silver’s status as a blogger — something like a columnist — as a mitigating factor…

…When he came to work at The Times, Mr. Silver gained a lot more visibility and the credibility associated with a prominent institution. But he lost something, too: the right to act like a free agent with responsibilities to nobody’s standards but his own.
The closest to an argument against betting is this:

Quote:
…whatever the motivation behind it, the wager offer is a bad idea – giving ammunition to the critics who want to paint Mr. Silver as a partisan who is trying to sway the outcome.
My best parse of the argument is that by betting Silver has given himself an interest in the election and this hurts his credibility. Nothing, however, could be further from the truth.

A properly structured bet is the most credible guarantor of rigorous disinterest. In order to prove his point, Silver is not required to take the Obama side of the bet! At the odds implied by his model (currently between 3 and 4 to 1) Silver should be willing to take either side of a modest bet. Indeed, we could hold a coin toss, heads Silver takes the Obama side, tails he takes Romney.

In fact, the NYTimes should require that Silver, and other pundits, bet their beliefs. Furthermore, to remove any possibility of manipulation, the NYTimes should escrow a portion of Silver’s salary in a blind trust bet. In other words, the NYTimes should bet a portion of Silver’s salary, at the odds implied by Silver’s model, randomly choosing which side of the bet to take, only revealing to Silver the bet and its outcome after the election is over. A blind trust bet creates incentives for Silver to be disinterested in the outcome but very interested in the accuracy of the forecast.

Overall, I am for betting because I am against bullshit. Bullshit is polluting our discourse and drowning the facts. A bet costs the bullshitter more than the non-bullshitter so the willingness to bet signals honest belief. A bet is a tax on bullshit; and it is a just tax, tribute paid by the bullshitters to those with genuine knowledge.
Posts: 46,882
Direckshun is obviously part of the inner Circle.Direckshun is obviously part of the inner Circle.Direckshun is obviously part of the inner Circle.Direckshun is obviously part of the inner Circle.Direckshun is obviously part of the inner Circle.Direckshun is obviously part of the inner Circle.Direckshun is obviously part of the inner Circle.Direckshun is obviously part of the inner Circle.Direckshun is obviously part of the inner Circle.Direckshun is obviously part of the inner Circle.Direckshun is obviously part of the inner Circle.
  Reply With Quote
Old 11-03-2012, 07:09 PM   #16
petegz28 petegz28 is offline
Supporter
 
petegz28's Avatar
 

Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Olathe, Ks
Casino cash: $20432
Quote:
Originally Posted by Direckshun View Post
Let's make that the bet, then.

If Romney wins Ohio, I'll never complain about the Drudge Report again. Ever again.

If Obama wins Ohio, you have to post "from Drudge:" at the start of every one of your threads for six months.
No, Direckshun





**** you, Direckshun
__________________
Posts: 67,952
petegz28 is obviously part of the inner Circle.petegz28 is obviously part of the inner Circle.petegz28 is obviously part of the inner Circle.petegz28 is obviously part of the inner Circle.petegz28 is obviously part of the inner Circle.petegz28 is obviously part of the inner Circle.petegz28 is obviously part of the inner Circle.petegz28 is obviously part of the inner Circle.petegz28 is obviously part of the inner Circle.petegz28 is obviously part of the inner Circle.petegz28 is obviously part of the inner Circle.
  Reply With Quote
Old 11-03-2012, 07:13 PM   #17
SNR SNR is offline
POE = MOTHER****ING COELACANTH
 
SNR's Avatar
 

Join Date: Apr 2002
Location: Where the hell is SNR
Casino cash: $23318
Quote:
Originally Posted by Direckshun View Post
I told Literature that if he wanted to be lenient, I would likely honor it.

Talk to him about it. His decision gets my support.

If it were up to just me, I would not let him post again in this forum. If I never see his "O'Marxist" or birther shit ever again in this forum, I'd be a happy man.

But I am, above all, a man of the people.
I'm fine any time you want to flush humorless and uninteresting turds like LVNHACK. But sportsshrink and others are a rich part of this forum's culture. There's nothing else like him. As annoying as it might be sometimes, it's still one of its kind.

I wouldn't destroy a one-of-a-kind Nazi artifact, and I will be sad to see sportsshrink's one-of-a-kind DC posting style going away.
__________________
Quote:
Originally Posted by Reaper16 View Post
I would read an entire blog of SNR breaking down athletes' musical capabilities like draft scouting reports.
Posts: 58,082
SNR is obviously part of the inner Circle.SNR is obviously part of the inner Circle.SNR is obviously part of the inner Circle.SNR is obviously part of the inner Circle.SNR is obviously part of the inner Circle.SNR is obviously part of the inner Circle.SNR is obviously part of the inner Circle.SNR is obviously part of the inner Circle.SNR is obviously part of the inner Circle.SNR is obviously part of the inner Circle.SNR is obviously part of the inner Circle.
  Reply With Quote
Old 11-03-2012, 07:55 PM   #18
Brock Brock is offline
Do it.
 
Brock's Avatar
 

Join Date: Aug 2000
Location: Larryville
Casino cash: $6542
There's a bet where either shrink or shun have to leave? Either way we all win.
Posts: 42,943
Brock is obviously part of the inner Circle.Brock is obviously part of the inner Circle.Brock is obviously part of the inner Circle.Brock is obviously part of the inner Circle.Brock is obviously part of the inner Circle.Brock is obviously part of the inner Circle.Brock is obviously part of the inner Circle.Brock is obviously part of the inner Circle.Brock is obviously part of the inner Circle.Brock is obviously part of the inner Circle.Brock is obviously part of the inner Circle.
  Reply With Quote
Old 11-03-2012, 07:57 PM   #19
Direckshun Direckshun is offline
Black for Palestine
 
Direckshun's Avatar
 

Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Springpatch
Casino cash: $23954
Quote:
Originally Posted by SNR View Post
I'm fine any time you want to flush humorless and uninteresting turds like LVNHACK. But sportsshrink and others are a rich part of this forum's culture. There's nothing else like him. As annoying as it might be sometimes, it's still one of its kind.

I wouldn't destroy a one-of-a-kind Nazi artifact, and I will be sad to see sportsshrink's one-of-a-kind DC posting style going away.
Completely, utterly disagree.

If it were up to me, he's as good as flushed. But I'm leaving it up to Literature.
__________________
Posts: 46,882
Direckshun is obviously part of the inner Circle.Direckshun is obviously part of the inner Circle.Direckshun is obviously part of the inner Circle.Direckshun is obviously part of the inner Circle.Direckshun is obviously part of the inner Circle.Direckshun is obviously part of the inner Circle.Direckshun is obviously part of the inner Circle.Direckshun is obviously part of the inner Circle.Direckshun is obviously part of the inner Circle.Direckshun is obviously part of the inner Circle.Direckshun is obviously part of the inner Circle.
  Reply With Quote
Old 11-03-2012, 09:25 PM   #20
J Diddy J Diddy is offline
One Groovy Cat
 
J Diddy's Avatar
 

Join Date: Aug 2001
Location: The Pitt State baby
Casino cash: $14984
Quote:
Originally Posted by SNR View Post
I'm fine any time you want to flush humorless and uninteresting turds like LVNHACK. But sportsshrink and others are a rich part of this forum's culture. There's nothing else like him. As annoying as it might be sometimes, it's still one of its kind.

I wouldn't destroy a one-of-a-kind Nazi artifact, and I will be sad to see sportsshrink's one-of-a-kind DC posting style going away.
He'll make it a week in the lounge and they'll make us take him back.
Posts: 30,727
J Diddy is obviously part of the inner Circle.J Diddy is obviously part of the inner Circle.J Diddy is obviously part of the inner Circle.J Diddy is obviously part of the inner Circle.J Diddy is obviously part of the inner Circle.J Diddy is obviously part of the inner Circle.J Diddy is obviously part of the inner Circle.J Diddy is obviously part of the inner Circle.J Diddy is obviously part of the inner Circle.J Diddy is obviously part of the inner Circle.J Diddy is obviously part of the inner Circle.
  Reply With Quote
Old 11-04-2012, 12:16 AM   #21
LVNHACK LVNHACK is offline
MVP
 
LVNHACK's Avatar
 

Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: Baghdad
Casino cash: $5000
Quote:
Originally Posted by SNR View Post
I'm fine any time you want to flush humorless and uninteresting turds like LVNHACK. But sportsshrink and others are a rich part of this forum's culture. There's nothing else like him. As annoying as it might be sometimes, it's still one of its kind.

I wouldn't destroy a one-of-a-kind Nazi artifact, and I will be sad to see sportsshrink's one-of-a-kind DC posting style going away.

....Coming from you, that's a badge of honor...
__________________
Bleach really should be used in the gene pool

Some people grow up, some just grow old.
Posts: 13,819
LVNHACK would the whole thing.LVNHACK would the whole thing.LVNHACK would the whole thing.LVNHACK would the whole thing.LVNHACK would the whole thing.LVNHACK would the whole thing.LVNHACK would the whole thing.LVNHACK would the whole thing.LVNHACK would the whole thing.LVNHACK would the whole thing.LVNHACK would the whole thing.
  Reply With Quote
Old 11-04-2012, 12:59 AM   #22
SNR SNR is offline
POE = MOTHER****ING COELACANTH
 
SNR's Avatar
 

Join Date: Apr 2002
Location: Where the hell is SNR
Casino cash: $23318
Quote:
Originally Posted by LVNHACK View Post
....Coming from you, that's a badge of honor...
Dude, I have no idea why you started hating on me all of a sudden.

Anyway, I mentioned originally that you rarely post anything on Chiefs Planet at all. Kind of hard to miss something that's never around. And lastly, you're no sportsshrink. I don't see you doubling down on quotation marks or using terms like "Alinskyize". That's all I ever meant by it.

Have a good day.
__________________
Quote:
Originally Posted by Reaper16 View Post
I would read an entire blog of SNR breaking down athletes' musical capabilities like draft scouting reports.
Posts: 58,082
SNR is obviously part of the inner Circle.SNR is obviously part of the inner Circle.SNR is obviously part of the inner Circle.SNR is obviously part of the inner Circle.SNR is obviously part of the inner Circle.SNR is obviously part of the inner Circle.SNR is obviously part of the inner Circle.SNR is obviously part of the inner Circle.SNR is obviously part of the inner Circle.SNR is obviously part of the inner Circle.SNR is obviously part of the inner Circle.
  Reply With Quote
Old 11-04-2012, 01:05 AM   #23
cosmo20002 cosmo20002 is offline
Debunking your bullshit
 
cosmo20002's Avatar
 

Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: KC area
Casino cash: $22713
Quote:
Originally Posted by SNR View Post
I'm fine any time you want to flush humorless and uninteresting turds like LVNHACK.
Quote:
Originally Posted by LVNHACK View Post
....Coming from you, that's a badge of honor...
Quote:
Originally Posted by SNR View Post
Dude, I have no idea why you started hating on me all of a sudden.
__________________
Posts: 20,560
cosmo20002 is obviously part of the inner Circle.cosmo20002 is obviously part of the inner Circle.cosmo20002 is obviously part of the inner Circle.cosmo20002 is obviously part of the inner Circle.cosmo20002 is obviously part of the inner Circle.cosmo20002 is obviously part of the inner Circle.cosmo20002 is obviously part of the inner Circle.cosmo20002 is obviously part of the inner Circle.cosmo20002 is obviously part of the inner Circle.cosmo20002 is obviously part of the inner Circle.cosmo20002 is obviously part of the inner Circle.
  Reply With Quote
Old 11-04-2012, 01:22 AM   #24
LVNHACK LVNHACK is offline
MVP
 
LVNHACK's Avatar
 

Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: Baghdad
Casino cash: $5000
Quote:
Originally Posted by SNR View Post
Dude, I have no idea why you started hating on me all of a sudden.

Anyway, I mentioned originally that you rarely post anything on Chiefs Planet at all. Kind of hard to miss something that's never around. And lastly, you're no sportsshrink. I don't see you doubling down on quotation marks or using terms like "Alinskyize". That's all I ever meant by it.

Have a good day.

Look lil fella....Have I ever called you "a turd"...?....Don't talk out your ass because you're an internet forum....Because you and I both know you wouldn't say it in real life...

FYI....Had it not been quoted, I'd have never seen it...you're irrelevant...pretty much imo a harpy...

You're right, I seldom post anymore, I really don't follow the Chief's due to my circumstances and they suck...So making the bet is simple for me...I win fine...Direk will make a mult and be back....I'll move on to something else....
__________________
Bleach really should be used in the gene pool

Some people grow up, some just grow old.

Last edited by LVNHACK; 11-04-2012 at 01:28 AM..
Posts: 13,819
LVNHACK would the whole thing.LVNHACK would the whole thing.LVNHACK would the whole thing.LVNHACK would the whole thing.LVNHACK would the whole thing.LVNHACK would the whole thing.LVNHACK would the whole thing.LVNHACK would the whole thing.LVNHACK would the whole thing.LVNHACK would the whole thing.LVNHACK would the whole thing.
  Reply With Quote
Old 11-04-2012, 01:53 AM   #25
SNR SNR is offline
POE = MOTHER****ING COELACANTH
 
SNR's Avatar
 

Join Date: Apr 2002
Location: Where the hell is SNR
Casino cash: $23318
Quote:
Originally Posted by LVNHACK View Post
Look lil fella....Have I ever called you "a turd"...?....Don't talk out your ass because you're an internet forum....Because you and I both know you wouldn't say it in real life...

FYI....Had it not been quoted, I'd have never seen it...you're irrelevant...pretty much imo a harpy...

You're right, I seldom post anymore, I really don't follow the Chief's due to my circumstances and they suck...So making the bet is simple for me...I win fine...Direk will make a mult and be back....I'll move on to something else....
It started a long time ago. Though I admit I did intend the back-to-back turd/innocence joke. Glad somebody caught it.

I've called people turds in real life before. To their faces. Some of them even thanked me for it later on.
__________________
Quote:
Originally Posted by Reaper16 View Post
I would read an entire blog of SNR breaking down athletes' musical capabilities like draft scouting reports.
Posts: 58,082
SNR is obviously part of the inner Circle.SNR is obviously part of the inner Circle.SNR is obviously part of the inner Circle.SNR is obviously part of the inner Circle.SNR is obviously part of the inner Circle.SNR is obviously part of the inner Circle.SNR is obviously part of the inner Circle.SNR is obviously part of the inner Circle.SNR is obviously part of the inner Circle.SNR is obviously part of the inner Circle.SNR is obviously part of the inner Circle.
  Reply With Quote
Old 11-04-2012, 03:51 AM   #26
DanT DanT is offline
Veteran
 

Join Date: Sep 2000
Location: Davis, CA
Casino cash: $7988
Money talks and bullshit walks. Except on the Internet, where bullshit comes onto bulletin boards with forecasts but is unwilling to take wagers that, even after factoring in the transaction costs, including the time it takes to make the wager and the risk that a winning payout would not be received (e.g. bad debt), would be clearly favorable to the forecaster if the forecaster honestly believed her bullshit.
Posts: 3,097
DanT must have mowed badgirl's lawn.DanT must have mowed badgirl's lawn.DanT must have mowed badgirl's lawn.DanT must have mowed badgirl's lawn.DanT must have mowed badgirl's lawn.DanT must have mowed badgirl's lawn.DanT must have mowed badgirl's lawn.DanT must have mowed badgirl's lawn.DanT must have mowed badgirl's lawn.DanT must have mowed badgirl's lawn.DanT must have mowed badgirl's lawn.
  Reply With Quote
Old 11-04-2012, 07:50 AM   #27
patteeu patteeu is offline
The 23rd Pillar
 
patteeu's Avatar
 

Join Date: Sep 2002
Casino cash: $5000
Quote:
Originally Posted by DanT View Post
... bullshit walks.
If Romney wins on Tuesday, we'll see that in action unless Chiefsshrink let's Direckshun out of his bet.

BTW, there's no money involved in these childish contests.
__________________


"I'll see you guys in New York." ISIS Caliph Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi to US military personnel upon his release from US custody at Camp Bucca in Iraq during Obama's first year in office.
Posts: 75,744
patteeu is obviously part of the inner Circle.patteeu is obviously part of the inner Circle.patteeu is obviously part of the inner Circle.patteeu is obviously part of the inner Circle.patteeu is obviously part of the inner Circle.patteeu is obviously part of the inner Circle.patteeu is obviously part of the inner Circle.patteeu is obviously part of the inner Circle.patteeu is obviously part of the inner Circle.patteeu is obviously part of the inner Circle.patteeu is obviously part of the inner Circle.
  Reply With Quote
Old 11-04-2012, 07:55 AM   #28
LVNHACK LVNHACK is offline
MVP
 
LVNHACK's Avatar
 

Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: Baghdad
Casino cash: $5000
Quote:
Originally Posted by patteeu View Post
If Romney wins on Tuesday, we'll see that in action unless Chiefsshrink let's Direckshun out of his bet.

BTW, there's no money involved in these childish contests.

He might.....I won't....
__________________
Bleach really should be used in the gene pool

Some people grow up, some just grow old.
Posts: 13,819
LVNHACK would the whole thing.LVNHACK would the whole thing.LVNHACK would the whole thing.LVNHACK would the whole thing.LVNHACK would the whole thing.LVNHACK would the whole thing.LVNHACK would the whole thing.LVNHACK would the whole thing.LVNHACK would the whole thing.LVNHACK would the whole thing.LVNHACK would the whole thing.
  Reply With Quote
Old 11-04-2012, 11:20 AM
patteeu
This message has been deleted by patteeu.
Old 11-04-2012, 11:20 AM   #29
patteeu patteeu is offline
The 23rd Pillar
 
patteeu's Avatar
 

Join Date: Sep 2002
Casino cash: $5000
Quote:
Originally Posted by LVNHACK View Post
He might.....I won't....
I forgot there were two bets. Bullshit be walkin'.
__________________


"I'll see you guys in New York." ISIS Caliph Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi to US military personnel upon his release from US custody at Camp Bucca in Iraq during Obama's first year in office.
Posts: 75,744
patteeu is obviously part of the inner Circle.patteeu is obviously part of the inner Circle.patteeu is obviously part of the inner Circle.patteeu is obviously part of the inner Circle.patteeu is obviously part of the inner Circle.patteeu is obviously part of the inner Circle.patteeu is obviously part of the inner Circle.patteeu is obviously part of the inner Circle.patteeu is obviously part of the inner Circle.patteeu is obviously part of the inner Circle.patteeu is obviously part of the inner Circle.
  Reply With Quote
Old 11-04-2012, 11:29 AM   #30
Direckshun Direckshun is offline
Black for Palestine
 
Direckshun's Avatar
 

Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Springpatch
Casino cash: $23954
Quote:
Originally Posted by patteeu View Post
BTW, there's no money involved in these childish contests.
Then let's bet money, pat.

How much are you thinking?

How about a sixpack? I'll send you a sixpack of a beer of your choice. You send me a sixpack of my choice.
__________________
Posts: 46,882
Direckshun is obviously part of the inner Circle.Direckshun is obviously part of the inner Circle.Direckshun is obviously part of the inner Circle.Direckshun is obviously part of the inner Circle.Direckshun is obviously part of the inner Circle.Direckshun is obviously part of the inner Circle.Direckshun is obviously part of the inner Circle.Direckshun is obviously part of the inner Circle.Direckshun is obviously part of the inner Circle.Direckshun is obviously part of the inner Circle.Direckshun is obviously part of the inner Circle.
  Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On

Forum Jump




All times are GMT -6. The time now is 02:31 PM.


This is a test for a client's site.
A new website that shows member-created construction site listings that need fill or have excess fill. Dirt Monkey @ https://DirtMonkey.net
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.0
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.