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Old 11-05-2012, 02:56 PM  
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So after a fairly long period of dithering, I'm going to vote for Romney and, less surprisingly, Scott Brown. The vote for Romney is, of course, wasted, as Massachusetts will go into Obama's column.

I could go on and on as to why, but essentially it boils down to this -- I've long stated that I want moderate candidates who have a more business-like approach to running government. I want them to be fiscally conservative and socially liberal. Under the current circumstances, I think it's even more important that we start being fiscally conservative (though not in a dramatic fashion such that the tepid recovery is undermined), and pro-business in order to encourage growth. I also cross my fingers that Mitt won't simply cave to the religious right and social conservatives to keep them in line. I know that his personal policies on such matters are, well, wishy-washy at best.

In voting for Romney, I'm not really rejecting Obama, as I don't think he's done such a bad job. He's had brutal circumstances, etc. I just think Mitt is the better candidate under the current circumstances.

And, frankly, I sorta feel like if I don't vote for Romney, then I might as well just admit I'd never vote for a Republican for POTUS. Usually their candidate is further to the right than I am comfortable with. Having nominated a more moderate candidate, I should reward that effort. Or something like that.

As for Brown, it's a relatively moderate Republican versus a die-hard liberal. I'll take the moderate.
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Old 11-05-2012, 05:28 PM   #46
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Yep. Or, as Obama's then chief of staff said, "**** 'em. We've got the votes."
I remember that
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Old 11-05-2012, 05:30 PM   #47
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Obama wanted to save the world, it's just that Republicans wouldn't let him. And I'm just really afraid that Amnorix can't see the glowing grace of the wondrous Obama, because he was tricked by sinister Republicans.
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Old 11-05-2012, 07:11 PM   #48
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Is this not a bit hypocritical?

Did the democrats work with GWB? I seem to recall quite a bit of name calling, divisive behavior, and the same BS party line politics.

I think its shameful how liberals seem to think shit only runs one way.

This right here is why I left the Democratic party, I cant stand a lot of things...but Hypocrites are the worst.
Check the filibuster count.
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Old 11-05-2012, 07:16 PM   #49
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I commend your reasonableness. I have to admit that I had my doubts that you'd pull the trigger for Romney (and your kind words for Obama are a bit disappointing), but I think your reasoning is sound. Romney is about as socially moderate as you can expect from the GOP in the sense that I don't think he will make social issues a focus of his administration. And it's hard to imagine a candidate from either party having more business executive experience and more of a campaign focus on addressing our fiscal and economic issues than he does.
Yeah, but why aren't you on his case for throwing in the towel for Romney in the toss-up state of Massachusetts?
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Old 11-05-2012, 07:46 PM   #50
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Yeah, but why aren't you on his case for throwing in the towel for Romney in the toss-up state of Massachusetts?
I'm not sure I understand your question. It would be better if Amnorix (or a similar convert) was a resident of Pennsylvania, but he lives where he lives.

I'm sure I'm missing your meaning.
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Old 11-05-2012, 07:48 PM   #51
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I'm not sure I understand your question. It would be better if Amnorix (or a similar convert) was a resident of Pennsylvania, but he lives where he lives.

I'm sure I'm missing your meaning.
I was trying to make a joke that you considered MA a toss-up. Guess the joke just wasn't there.
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Old 11-05-2012, 07:49 PM   #52
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Check the filibuster count.
Ssshhhhhhh! Nothing to see here move along....at least until Dems play the same game, in the unlikely event of a Romney victory. Heh.
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Old 11-05-2012, 07:49 PM   #53
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Old 11-05-2012, 07:57 PM   #54
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So after a fairly long period of dithering, I'm going to vote for Romney and, less surprisingly, Scott Brown. The vote for Romney is, of course, wasted, as Massachusetts will go into Obama's column.
Out of curiosity, did you vote for Romney for Governor?
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Old 11-05-2012, 07:59 PM   #55
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Out of curiosity, did you vote for Romney for Governor?
You gotta ask? It's his token, and occasional R vote...NTTAWWT.

Jk, jk....heh.
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Old 11-05-2012, 08:06 PM   #56
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I was trying to make a joke that you considered MA a toss-up. Guess the joke just wasn't there.
I'm sure it was just me.
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Old 11-05-2012, 08:19 PM   #57
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Dude, he had the house and senate the first two years, what good did it do to run away?
You got me.

It was a failed strategy the moment they embraced it.
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Old 11-05-2012, 08:20 PM   #58
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Mr. "I don't want (Republicans) to do a lot of talking" wasn't able to catch flies with vinegar? Probably just need more vinegar.
Pretty sure you just intentionally cropped the President's words there. But, have at.

It's only costing you the election.
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Old 11-05-2012, 08:21 PM   #59
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I take it you haven't read or heard about Woodward's book, eh?
I've absorbed Woodward's book.

Your point?
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A vote for Barack Obama rewards a campaign based on excuse-making and focused on small, divisive issues at a time when we face big problems.
Focused on small, divisive issues?

Like he fact his opponent's economic plan doesn't make a lick of sense, and the parts that do make sense mirror the lost-decade ideas of the Bush administration?
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