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Old 11-05-2012, 12:48 PM  
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The Marijuana Legalization Watch Thread

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This thread is split out from the 538 thread. As mentioned below, it's looking like the marijuana legalization initiatives in Colorado and Washington both have a decent chance of passing, so here's a thread to talk about it. I know legalization as a philosophy has been discussed on the Planet ad nauseum, so I'd suggest this thread be used primarily to talk specifically about the potential impacts of legalization in these states rater than as a general philosophy, but it's not like I dictate discussion around here either.
Take this poll with a grain of salt because drugs always seem to under-perform their polling, but PPP says amendment 64 is winning in CO, 52-44.

This amendment would outright legalize and regulate the cultivation, manufacture, sale, and recreational use of marijuana. That would set the state up for a showdown with the feds which the feds will obviously win, but it could drive the issue further.

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Old 11-05-2012, 07:50 PM   #76
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I voted "no." I would like to see marijuana legalized, but I have two objections:

1. It doesn't belong in the Colorado Constitution;

2. I don't want the first $40 million in revenue to go to the schools.

I suspect it will pass.
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Old 11-05-2012, 07:51 PM   #77
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If the Republicans get it in I fully expect them to act to end these state medical laws let alone full legalization. Big Pharma has been a rep mainstay for years, probably their largest contributor.
I don't know why Republicans would want to take on this fight, but I'm not saying you're wrong.
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Old 11-05-2012, 07:51 PM   #78
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If the Republicans get it in I fully expect them to act to end these state medical laws let alone full legalization. Big Pharma has been a rep mainstay for years, probably their largest contributor.
don't be so sure Obama is any kind of pal to marijuana. He's been busting california dispensaries as much as Bush ever did.
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Old 11-05-2012, 07:52 PM   #79
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Earlier you said you weren't sure what to think about the tourism effects. Now that Brock says he's coming to town, you're suddenly "a bit concerned". Interesting.
I don't think that's inconsistent.

I'm concerned about it, but acknowledge that it might turn out to be a good thing.
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Old 11-05-2012, 07:53 PM   #80
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I voted "no." I would like to see marijuana legalized, but I have two objections:

1. It doesn't belong in the Colorado Constitution;

2. I don't want the first $40 million in revenue to go to the schools.

I suspect it will pass.
I definitely agree with that one #1. I don't mind the schools earmark in terms of what it does, but I do agree that it's a weird mandate.
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Old 11-05-2012, 08:23 PM   #81
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don't be so sure Obama is any kind of pal to marijuana. He's been busting california dispensaries as much as Bush ever did.
Wait until the second term gets goin'..... We may be thinking he was born in Ocho Rios....
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Old 11-05-2012, 08:42 PM   #82
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I would. Why bother driving clear to Colorado to buy it legally if you're just going to illegally transport it across state line?
It's illegal to transport alcohol across state lines too.
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Old 11-06-2012, 09:19 AM   #83
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It's illegal to transport alcohol across state lines too.
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Old 11-06-2012, 09:29 AM   #84
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don't be so sure Obama is any kind of pal to marijuana. He's been busting california dispensaries as much as Bush ever did.
He's actually hitting them worse - using the IRS instead of the DEA.
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Old 11-06-2012, 10:41 AM   #85
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Voting no for this, to me, means you hate human rights. I just don't get it, it's 2012 and we know that weed helps people and is definitely not bad for you. It's sickening to see huge corporations paying off the government to keep it illegal. It's fascism at it's best.

It's time for this prohibition to end, it's just sad. So many people could be helped by MJ, it's not even funny.
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Old 11-06-2012, 10:45 AM   #86
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Voting no for this, to me, means you hate human rights. I just don't get it, it's 2012 and we know that weed helps people and is definitely not bad for you. It's sickening to see huge corporations paying off the government to keep it illegal. It's fascism at it's best.

It's time for this prohibition to end, it's just sad. So many people could be helped by MJ, it's not even funny.
Medical MJ is already legal in CO.
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Old 11-06-2012, 10:46 AM   #87
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Voting no for this, to me, means you hate human rights.
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Old 11-06-2012, 10:55 AM   #88
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I hope this passes. Im sure it would be duplicated in California as well.

As far as it hurting Mexican Grass sales.....Hrmmmm...

Here's a small observation i've made (it could possibly mean absolutely nothing):

I started smoking pot when i was 19/20. At the time, all me and my friends could ever get our hands on was Mexican dirt. Nasty, hard as a rock super condensed stuff that was obviously smuggled across the border.

7 years later, i never see Mexican Grass anywhere. None of my friends smoke it, and no one that i know of sells it. Within just a few years we went from having only mexican dirt to having nothing but locally grown, fresh bud.

Is this because of the relaxed MJ laws out here in CA and the introduction to so many new dispensaries? is it affecting Mexico Pot in any way?
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Old 11-06-2012, 10:57 AM   #89
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7 years later, i never see Mexican Grass anywhere. None of my friends smoke it, and no one that i know of sells it. Within just a few years we went from having only mexican dirt to having nothing but locally grown, fresh bud.

Is this because of the relaxed MJ laws out here in CA and the introduction to so many new dispensaries? is it affecting Mexico Pot in any way?
It has to be impacting mexico. Nobody who has a choice wants their crappy brickweed.
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Old 11-06-2012, 10:58 AM   #90
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I hope this passes. Im sure it would be duplicated in California as well.

As far as it hurting Mexican Grass sales.....Hrmmmm...

Here's a small observation i've made (it could possibly mean absolutely nothing):

I started smoking pot when i was 19/20. At the time, all me and my friends could ever get our hands on was Mexican dirt. Nasty, hard as a rock super condensed stuff that was obviously smuggled across the border.

7 years later, i never see Mexican Grass anywhere. None of my friends smoke it, and no one that i know of sells it. Within just a few years we went from having only mexican dirt to having nothing but locally grown, fresh bud.

Is this because of the relaxed MJ laws out here in CA and the introduction to so many new dispensaries? is it affecting Mexico Pot in any way?
Probably just more grow houses after so many people started watching 'Weeds'.
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