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Old 11-07-2012, 07:56 AM  
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GOP, 2012: Angry White Men and Their Women

Honestly, that is what the Republican party has become. Think about it...

Think about most of the obnoxious conservatives in this forum: Angry White Men....it says it all. They've been drinking the Limbaugh, Hannity, and Beck Kool-Aid for over 20 years now. Is it really surprising, then, that the party no longer appeals to anyone else--especially with their seething contempt and venomous attacks toward anyone who dares to disagree with them?

The Democrats went though a similar thing...between 1968 and 1988, when they lost 5 out of 6 Presidential elections, because they were out-of-touch with the country (too beholden to bleeding heart liberals and minorities.) Between 1992 and 2012, the Republicans have now lost the popular vote for President in 5 of the 6 elections, for the same reason (too beholden to the Tea Party and talk radio addicts.)

Until the GOP admits they have a a big problem, and are out-of-touch, and seek to moderate their policies and rhetoric....they will remain the party of Angry White Men and the Women Who Love Them. They must find ways to appeal to larger numbers of Blacks, Asians, women, and Hispanics--otherwise they are screwed. And they will continue to struggle to win national elections.

It's simple math. Demographic shifts have become political inertia, and the GOP has to recognize that reality--instead of pretending not to notice.

In 1992, Clinton brought the Democratic party back toward the mainstream. For the GOP to turn things around in 2016, they'll need to do the same thing. Whenever political parties are sucked into lunatic fringe politics, they alienate the voters who matter--in our republic, a majority. Republicans had better soon remember the role of majority rule in our country, or they may yet become this century's version of the Whigs.
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Old 11-07-2012, 11:04 AM   #151
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These last few posts are interesting, because what they are essentially saying is, "It's NOT the economy, stupid."

So, is that the case? Are we in a post-economic society where people see the economic malaise as being so unassailable, that it's a moot issue at this point?
I don't think so. I think the country as a whole, left and right are very serious about the economy. But as stated above, social issues are huge. How can I trust someone to fix the economy when they actually believe that there is a hormone in a woman's body that will block pregnancy if she is raped, otherwise, she is just a slut and really wanted that dick no matter how much she screamed.
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Old 11-07-2012, 11:04 AM   #152
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Wow, they misspelled the name of our country?
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Old 11-07-2012, 11:05 AM   #153
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Are you really going to try to sell that republicans don't pander to the God Squad?
Not to the extent that dumbshit bought into. The whole "Science is the devil" line of crap.
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Old 11-07-2012, 11:06 AM   #154
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I don't think so. I think the country as a whole, left and right are very serious about the economy. But as stated above, social issues are huge. How can I trust someone to fix the economy when they actually believe that there is a hormone in a woman's body that will block pregnancy if she is raped, otherwise, she is just a slut and really wanted that dick no matter how much she screamed.
Because that's exactly what he meant.
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Old 11-07-2012, 11:07 AM   #155
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Because that's exactly what he meant.
What did he mean?
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Old 11-07-2012, 11:09 AM   #156
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which, in turn, was a vote for Obama.
No, - I live in MO; I knew we would be at least 70% Republican, and we were.

It's 5th grade civics.

I know how this okie-doke works; I'm under no illusions that my vote mattered one way or the other.
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Old 11-07-2012, 11:09 AM   #157
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Yes on the DREAM Act and probably yes on amnesty with a penalty and go back in line.

Romney was against both of those as was the GOP. He wanted self-deportation.

I would also add the GOP and Romney loved the Arizona law...that really pissed off alot of Hispanics.
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Old 11-07-2012, 11:09 AM   #158
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What did he mean?
Probably not this. "if she is raped, otherwise, she is just a slut and really wanted that dick no matter how much she screamed."

I think this was hashed out in here and he was factually correct. Just put it in a stupid way.
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Old 11-07-2012, 11:10 AM   #159
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Old 11-07-2012, 11:14 AM   #160
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Because that's exactly what he meant.
Point is, even if that is not what he meant, the perception is that is EXACTLY what he meant.

I can totally see that Mourdock with the "Gods Gift Rape" was not trying to be insensitive. He was trying to say "that life, any life, even life conceived in the most heinous of circumstances is a precious thing that should not just be thrown away"

Sadly for him it came out as "dumb slut got what she deserved"
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Old 11-07-2012, 11:14 AM   #161
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You'll be relieved to know...no one is coming for your guns. Seriously.

Gun-control is to the right, what abortion is to the right...it stirs the faithful, but the pols know better than to really do anything about it.

I'd think a history teacher might recall the brady bill, might recall that there was a recent 5-4 SCOTUS gun rights vote that swings with one dipshit judge. You might recall that the POTUS in the 2nd debate said he was indeed in favor of gun control and assault weapons bans.


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Old 11-07-2012, 11:22 AM   #162
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Well guess what. My generation is coming into power soon. Another 10 years, and my generation will be the ones controlling things, not our parent's and certainly not our grandparent’s generations. And with every new generation, tolerance and acceptance becomes more and more the everyday norm. And with every new generation that takes control, the above points and ones similar in nature will become anathema to this country.
Yeah, this sort of goes hand in hand with the country getting progressively worse and worse over the years. The flower child twats from the 60s are the ones running the country in the ground now. Can't wait to see what you clowns will do. Assuming you ever get the chance.

The funny thing is, you talk about tolerance and acceptance like they're the most important things ever (as you've been programmed to) - yet these high-minded ideals of yours only flourish in a stable society. This nation is on the road to ruin, and when we get there, I'm pretty sure the only ass your going to worry about getting ****ed is your own.
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Old 11-07-2012, 11:26 AM   #163
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Yeah, this sort of goes hand in hand with the country getting progressively worse and worse over the years. The flower child twats from the 60s are the ones running the country in the ground now. Can't wait to see what you clowns will do. Assuming you ever get the chance.

The funny thing is, you talk about tolerance and acceptance like they're the most important things ever (as you've been programmed to) - yet these high-minded ideals of yours only flourish in a stable society. This nation is on the road to ruin, and when we get there, I'm pretty sure the only ass your going to worry about getting ****ed is your own.
Yet you support Hamiltonian policies that breed a class of plutocrats that run our govt and who own both candidates. So we get spending, an economy manipulated with central bank manipulation of interest rates and empire.
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Old 11-07-2012, 11:27 AM   #164
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Yeah, this sort of goes hand in hand with the country getting progressively worse and worse over the years. The flower child twats from the 60s are the ones running the country in the ground now. Can't wait to see what you clowns will do. Assuming you ever get the chance.

The funny thing is, you talk about tolerance and acceptance like they're the most important things ever (as you've been programmed to) - yet these high-minded ideals of yours only flourish in a stable society. This nation is on the road to ruin, and when we get there, I'm pretty sure the only ass your going to worry about getting ****ed is your own.
And I know this is only Chiefsplanet, and I share some of your sentiments... but this sort of billy badass rhetoric is also a problem of the right. I'm not picking on you here frazod (once again, I agree with many of your concerns, and I actually was going to posit that these guys who are worried more about social issues than the economy may be young and without families), but the Right is really, really bad at coming off as complete ****ing assholes who don't give a shit about other people.

Going back to Travon Martin: maybe there's no racism in a person's stance on it, but when they're saying shit like, "thuggy hood rat probably had it coming. One less baby daddy in the welfare line" (not an exact quote) then it's really easy for them to be painted as racist.
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Yet you support Hamiltonian policies that breed a class of plutocrats that run our govt and who own both candidates. So we get spending, an economy manipulated with central bank manipulation of interest rates and empire.


No, I admire many of the things the man achieved in life, you stupid bitch. Doesn't mean I agree with everything he ever did, or that I have a candle-lit shrine to him in my closet.

I noticed you posted a quote from the Federalist Papers earlier today. Gee, I wonder who wrote that?
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