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Old 11-07-2012, 07:56 AM  
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GOP, 2012: Angry White Men and Their Women

Honestly, that is what the Republican party has become. Think about it...

Think about most of the obnoxious conservatives in this forum: Angry White Men....it says it all. They've been drinking the Limbaugh, Hannity, and Beck Kool-Aid for over 20 years now. Is it really surprising, then, that the party no longer appeals to anyone else--especially with their seething contempt and venomous attacks toward anyone who dares to disagree with them?

The Democrats went though a similar thing...between 1968 and 1988, when they lost 5 out of 6 Presidential elections, because they were out-of-touch with the country (too beholden to bleeding heart liberals and minorities.) Between 1992 and 2012, the Republicans have now lost the popular vote for President in 5 of the 6 elections, for the same reason (too beholden to the Tea Party and talk radio addicts.)

Until the GOP admits they have a a big problem, and are out-of-touch, and seek to moderate their policies and rhetoric....they will remain the party of Angry White Men and the Women Who Love Them. They must find ways to appeal to larger numbers of Blacks, Asians, women, and Hispanics--otherwise they are screwed. And they will continue to struggle to win national elections.

It's simple math. Demographic shifts have become political inertia, and the GOP has to recognize that reality--instead of pretending not to notice.

In 1992, Clinton brought the Democratic party back toward the mainstream. For the GOP to turn things around in 2016, they'll need to do the same thing. Whenever political parties are sucked into lunatic fringe politics, they alienate the voters who matter--in our republic, a majority. Republicans had better soon remember the role of majority rule in our country, or they may yet become this century's version of the Whigs.
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Old 11-07-2012, 09:00 AM   #61
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Its not funny to me, it is pathetic what this nation is becoming.

Yes I am angry this morning, and I am an old white man who's life savings are going to be worthless, due to the inflation from this regimes endless deficit.

The same guy that promised he would cut the deficit in half in his first term.
I'm truly sorry.

I voted for Gary Johnson...
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Old 11-07-2012, 09:00 AM   #62
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We didn't go conservative enough! The republicans have made too many concessions and swung too far to the center.
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Old 11-07-2012, 09:02 AM   #63
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The GOP needs to adopt exactly the same stance the Democratic party has on "social issues" and focus on how it can differentiate itself in other ways.
Exactly. Why do I give a **** if two same sex people get married? Why do I care what a woman does in private with her own body? I don't.
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Old 11-07-2012, 09:03 AM   #64
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Old 11-07-2012, 09:03 AM   #65
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Exactly. Why do I give a **** if two same sex people get married? Why do I care what a woman does in private with her own body? I don't.
Or they could just invoke the Constitution: say it belongs with the states and stop pressing for an Amendment on this issue.
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Old 11-07-2012, 09:03 AM   #66
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Exactly. Why do I give a **** if two same sex people get married? Why do I care what a woman does in private with her own body? I don't.
Then don't vote or support people that do.
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Old 11-07-2012, 09:04 AM   #67
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That's what I think. They need to get past the anti-gay marriage thing. All it does is get a large % of the population to automatically vote the other way. It's a legal and tax issue, not a church issue. As long as the government doesn't start forcing churches to perform gay marriages then I don't know why conservatives give a rats ass.
Half the reason these Hollywood celebs, talk shows, movies, etc hammer on Republicans is over the gay rights issue. They need to just take that whole topic out of the equation. It's dumb, it's a losing battle, and all you're doing is throwing softballs to the opponents.
They can't ignore it, or give up on it. They need to come right out and support it.
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Old 11-07-2012, 09:04 AM   #68
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You RINO. You're what's wrong with the GOP
No RINO's are big spenders, want wars for profressive reasons and believe in global warming. It's not really social issues. A real conservative supports the federalism of the Constitution with its Tenth Amendment.
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I really think the way they need to better appeal to minorities is to be more aggressive in not accepting the fact that Democrats keep selling that if you're Republican you're racist or bigoted. Look at this thread alone- the premise is basically implying that if you're Republican you're an old white racist.
If you're accusing people of demagoguery, the left does it just the same. They're just more successful at doing it. And now that the feel the have minorities in their pocket they're moving to the War on Women rhetoric.
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Old 11-07-2012, 09:05 AM   #70
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I'm truly sorry.

I voted for Gary Johnson...
which, in turn, was a vote for Obama.
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Old 11-07-2012, 09:06 AM   #71
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Legal immigration, sure. I presume that is what you are referring to, right?
No, Illegal immigrants that buy fake SSNs pay a tremendous amount of money into the system and will never get any of it back. That is the exact reason nothing is being done about illegal immigrants.

Well, unless Barrack Obama changes it.
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Old 11-07-2012, 09:07 AM   #72
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I really think the way they need to better appeal to minorities is to be more aggressive in not accepting the fact that Democrats keep selling that if you're Republican you're racist or bigoted. Look at this thread alone- the premise is basically implying that if you're Republican you're an old white racist.
If you're accusing people of demagoguery, the left does it just the same. They're just more successful at doing it. And now that the feel the have minorities in their pocket they're moving to the War on Women rhetoric.
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Old 11-07-2012, 09:08 AM   #73
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which, in turn, was a vote for Obama.
bullshit!

Romney was a vote for Obama, that liberal twit couldn't unite the base. Blame yourselves for the horrible GOP representative.
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Old 11-07-2012, 09:10 AM   #74
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Uh, duh. Of course, Dick Morris was claiming that Romney was going to win big, so I'm not sure what he won't say.
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We didn't go conservative enough! The republicans have made too many concessions and swung too far to the center.
Yeah, I'd run with that.
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