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Old 11-08-2012, 05:52 PM  
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Did Bill Kristol cost Romney the Election?

Good question. I know I've been thinking this and this is the first Op-Ed I've seen on it.
Human Events doesn't question this...or I haven't seen it yet. I think it needs to be asked.

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What about the GOP? It's soul-searching time.
A good case could be made that the author, in many ways, of the GOP's problems is William Kristol. Kristol saddled John McCain with Sarah Palin. He's the biggest backer of Paul Ryan, a Washington creature, who is being talked up as a potential presidential candidate in 2016--when was the last time a Congressman won the presidency?

And Kristol, of course, has dominated foreign policy debate in the GOP by ceaselessly purveying neocon malarkey about American militarism abroad, but Romney's bluster about a new American century went nowhere. Had Romney shunned the neocon bluster and campaigned as a Massachusetts moderate, he would have posed a much greater threat to Obama than he did.
I happen to agree with what is said in the second paragraph.


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Ultimately, the problems afflicting the party are so obvious that they barely require enumeration, from the neocon control of the foreign-policy debate to moralistic flapdoodle about women.

This should have been an election that the GOP had a strong shot at winning. [States earlier with unemployment exceeding 7 percent, enthusiasm for Obama personally is tepid]

Its self-destructive tendencies mean that it didn't. The bottom line is that the Karl Rove model for creating a Republican majority that he boasted about in 2004 is broken. There is no evangelical coalition that can put the GOP over the top. On the contrary, it almost singlehandedly destroyed the GOP's hopes of capturing the Senate. The GOP can reboot or it can follow the model of the Democratic party that lost three straight presidential elections before turning to Bill Clinton in 1992. What will it choose?
Time to go Karl Rove and your blood money Sheldon Adelson.
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Old 11-08-2012, 05:52 PM   #2
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Oh, yeah, here's the link to the above:

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Old 11-08-2012, 06:10 PM   #3
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The problem is the republicans who are in office now ...most of them aren't true republicans. They're neo-con puppets that only look out for their own special interest. The republicans now want more govt control, more legislation, bigger govt expansion, militarizing our local police forces, and tearing up the constitution. This isn't a capitalist society anymore. It's caused by people from both criminal parties. Now it's corporate fascism against socialism.

The bankers are trying to take control over this country the same way they were able to do to Greece. Greece is pretty much being ran by Goldman Sachs crooks right now. They want to see us tear ourselves apart from within, while they sit offshore on their own private islands while they line their pockets from our looted economy.

Romney wasn't going to change a ****ing thing, and neither is Obama or has he ever planned to. These guys are going to do exactly what they're told to do.
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Old 11-08-2012, 06:15 PM   #4
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The problem is the republicans who are in office now ...most of them aren't true republicans. They're neo-con puppets that only look out for their own special interest. The republicans now want more govt control, more legislation, bigger govt expansion, militarizing our local police forces, and tearing up the constitution. This isn't a capitalist society anymore. It's caused by people from both criminal parties. Now it's corporate fascism against socialism.

The bankers are trying to take control over this country the same way they were able to do to Greece. Greece is pretty much being ran by Goldman Sachs crooks right now. They want to see us tear ourselves apart from within, while they sit offshore on their own private islands while they line their pockets from our looted economy.

Romney wasn't going to change a ****ing thing, and neither is Obama or has he ever planned to. These guys are going to do exactly what they're told to do.
Well, I can't say I disagree. So yeah, Kristol is all that as well. So he did cost them the election. They've abandoned their philosophy. But I do think the war like belligerence harmed them...Obama pandered about being less war like.
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Old 11-08-2012, 06:24 PM   #5
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CoMoChief,
You might like this editorial in The American Conservative:

The Sun Sets on American Empire
The Short American Century: A Post-Mortem
http://www.theamericanconservative.c...erican-empire/

There's another one in there called: America's Hard Road Back from Empire and Insolvency


Donger and a few others in the Drone thread still haven't learned a thing though.
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