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Old 11-07-2012, 11:14 PM  
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How will Obama make the country worse in 4 years?

Just wondering since everyone seems to think the world is ending now that he is Prez again.
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Old 11-08-2012, 07:32 AM   #31
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I think our country will be worse for many reasons, and it would've been worse with Romney too.

The big one is just the constant pressure on US incomes to reach equilibrium with the Chinese/Indian/Indonesians. They still have too many people willing to do our jobs for pittances and our incomes have a long way to go down.

Reaching equilibrium will continue to be very painful for most Americans, especially the middle class.

Until we have leaders willing to confront these problems openly and aggressively, we are in a downward spiral.
Nicely said. I wish more people would realize that our problems aren't just tied to one political party or the other.
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Old 11-08-2012, 07:35 AM   #32
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Where?

What pct of the income scale do you think is the middle?
That's per household. We're rather close and we are in TEXAS where everything is cheap and we sure as hell aren't rich.
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Old 11-08-2012, 08:11 AM   #33
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Nicely said. I wish more people would realize that our problems aren't just tied to one political party or the other.
The whole process is broken.

I don't think anything is going to get fixed as long as the politician's main focus is running for re-election, from their first day on the job.

If the offices were limited to one term, difficult choices could and would be made.
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Old 11-08-2012, 08:24 AM   #34
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The whole process is broken.

I don't think anything is going to get fixed as long as the politician's main focus is running for re-election, from their first day on the job.

If the offices were limited to one term, difficult choices could and would be made.
I think they need to be re-elected more often. Leaving them in there for too long is more dangerous. They hate being re-elected. It makes them more accountable.

I don't think the whole process is broken. It's just gridlock. Embrace it. This will help box Obama in—provided they do box him in. He's not Clinton though. It's because there was not enough opposition in Obama's first two years where most of the damage happened. We're going over a cliff no matter who was elected president. Europe is going to wash up on our shores.
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Old 11-08-2012, 08:30 AM   #35
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I think they need to be re-elected more often. Leaving them in there for too long is more dangerous. They hate being re-elected. It makes them more accountable.

I don't think the whole process is broken. It's just gridlock. Embrace it. This will help box Obama in—provided they do box him in. He's not Clinton though. It's because there was not enough opposition in Obama's first two years where most of the damage happened. We're going over a cliff no matter who was elected president. Europe is going to wash up on our shores.
It doesn't matter how long or short the term is, they are running for re-election and not doing their job. The deficit is not going to get fixed by someone needing to be re-elected because it is going to cause too much pain.

You are pretty well versed on the politics, I need a question answered please.

If baby boomers are retiring at an average of 10,000 per day, where are those jobs going? Wouldn't that create at least 200,000 openings per month?
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Old 11-08-2012, 09:55 AM   #36
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I have no clue on why any working man or woman would vote for Obama. I have no clue on why anyone with children would vote for him.

The republicans will never win another election due to their beliefs on what made this country great. Their beliefs on building through hard work. Their beliefs on securing our boarders. The majority of the country feels entitled to free things and people won't ever give that up.



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Old 11-08-2012, 10:09 AM   #37
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Old 11-08-2012, 10:11 AM   #38
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He won't, and neither would have Romney. The only difference will be the people saying how responsible the President is for the good or bad would have flip flopped.
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Old 11-08-2012, 10:12 AM   #39
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Other than that, I'm not sure a whole hell of a lot would be different under Romney. Not the big things anyway.
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Old 11-08-2012, 10:24 AM   #40
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IMO opinion, there are two possible outcomes if Obama's agenda floats through - 1) Germany or Sweden, which is pretty damn good by any measure, 2) Greece or Spain, which is pretty damn bad by any measure. Those who voted for Obama are betting on 1.
Well since you bet on no. 1, what kind of odds do you think you face? I truly wish for no. 1, but to bet on that would be like me betting on the Chiefs to make the Super Bowl in four years...nothing in the past four indicate the next four would give us a chance in hell.
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Old 11-08-2012, 10:26 AM   #41
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4 more years is going to make it all but impossible to get that smell out of the White House furniture.
Also, another term of michelle's back hair down the drains is going to cause the White House plumbing staff to run a deficit.
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It doesn't matter how long or short the term is, they are running for re-election and not doing their job. The deficit is not going to get fixed by someone needing to be re-elected because it is going to cause too much pain.

You are pretty well versed on the politics, I need a question answered please.

If baby boomers are retiring at an average of 10,000 per day, where are those jobs going? Wouldn't that create at least 200,000 openings per month?
That sounds like an economic question more than a political question. I don't speak for the market...it should work that out on it's own.

I am not sure I agree on getting elected more often or not. I just think when they have more time to be in there, they're buffered from their bad decisions. But if the budget is too painful either way then they just don't have the balls to fix it period. Because it's gonna take some pain.
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Other than that, I'm not sure a whole hell of a lot would be different under Romney. Not the big things anyway.
I agree. If the politicians won't face up to realities which will involve some pain...just like the American people, life will force them too.
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