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Old 11-15-2012, 07:14 AM  
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A week later Romney is still a douchebag

My guess Mittens he won because he didn't insult half the country and didn't come across as a prick to normal middle class people.

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Mitt Romney told donors Wednesday he blamed last week’s loss to President Barack Obama in part to “gifts” the Obama administration gave to key voter blocs, including African Americans, Hispanics and young women, according to media reports.

“The president’s campaign focused on giving targeted groups a big gift — so he made a big effort on small things. Those small things, by the way, add up to trillions of dollars,” Romney said on a conference call with donors, the Los Angeles Times first reported.

The “gifts,” according to Romney, included forgiving college loan interest, free contraceptive coverage and the part of Obamacare that allows people 26 and younger to be covered under their parents’ health care plans.

“You can imagine for somebody making $25,000 or $30,000 or $35,000 a year, being told you’re now going to get free healthcare, particularly if you don’t have it, getting free healthcare worth, what, $10,000 per family, in perpetuity. I mean, this is huge,” Romney said, the New York Times reported.

“Likewise with Hispanic voters, free healthcare was a big plus,” Romney added. “But in addition with regards to Hispanic voters, the amnesty for children of illegals, the so-called Dream Act kids, was a huge plus for that voting group.”




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Old 11-15-2012, 07:16 AM   #2
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Old 11-15-2012, 07:17 AM   #3
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You guys crack me up. Just because your guy won, doesn't mean Obama didn't do some prickish things. He made Romney, who is basically squeaky clean in terms of any corruption, look like a bad person. He's not.

Romney is right about how Obama bribed his voters. Obama also gave jobs to illegals I read. It's just that you guys support such policies.

The reality is Romney is not that much different. He just understands market principles better than Obama.
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Old 11-15-2012, 07:18 AM   #4
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It is all true, in fact he pulled his punches.
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Old 11-15-2012, 07:19 AM   #5
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Bobby Jindal disagrees with Mittens and he thinks he is dividing the country. Good for Jindal for standing up and speaking the truth

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Louisiana Gov. Bobby Jindal (R-LA) strongly condemned Mitt Romney Wednesday night for remarks the former Republican nominee made blaming President Obama’s re-election on “big gifts” for minorities and women.

“That is absolutely wrong,” Jindal told reporters in Las Vegas at the Republican Governors Association meeting. “Two points on that. One, we have got to stop dividing American voters. We need to go after 100 percent of the votes, not 53 percent — we need to go after every single vote. And second, we need to continue to show that our policies help every voter out there achieve the American dream, which is to be in the middle class, which is to be able to give their children the opportunity to get a great education, which is for their children to have even better-paying jobs than their parents.”

Jindal said that he “absolutely reject[s]” Romney’s comments and that they were indicative of broader problems for the GOP as they regroup in the wake of last week’s defeat.

“If we’re going to continue to be a competitive party and win elections on the national stage and continue to fight for our conservative principles, we need two messages to get out loudly and clearly: One, we are fighting for 100 percent of the votes, and secondly, our policies benefit every American who wants to pursue the American dream, period,” he said. “No exceptions.”
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Old 11-15-2012, 07:20 AM   #6
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obama fans crack me up--and the fans part is spot on, never seen any group of people so enamored with a ****ing POLITICIAN of all things.
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Old 11-15-2012, 07:20 AM   #7
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Bobby Jindal disagrees with Mittens and he thinks he is dividing the country. Good for Jindal for standing up and speaking the truth
same bobby jindal that you people made fun of for the volcano insurance thing? yet all of the sudden, he agrees with me, HE MUST BE RIGHT! (he IS right in this instance, just pointing out the irony)
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Old 11-15-2012, 07:25 AM   #8
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same bobby jindal that you people made fun of for the volcano insurance thing? yet all of the sudden, he agrees with me, HE MUST BE RIGHT! (he IS right in this instance, just pointing out the irony)
Or the gnashing of teeth that billionaires were able to donate too much money which unfairly influences an election. Yet, Obama used money to pay off different groups too.

I call this pressure from above and pressure from below. It's how the Marxist operate.

So much for calling Bush a divider which Obama was going to change.
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Old 11-15-2012, 07:27 AM   #9
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Bobby Jindal disagrees with Mittens and he thinks he is dividing the country. Good for Jindal for standing up and speaking the truth
The country has been divided for several years now and it's only going to get worse. Anyone who thinks this problem is just going to magically go away, is either delusional, or smoking crack.
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Old 11-15-2012, 07:27 AM   #10
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same bobby jindal that you people made fun of for the volcano insurance thing? yet all of the sudden, he agrees with me, HE MUST BE RIGHT! (he IS right in this instance, just pointing out the irony)
I don't know anything about his volcano insurance but don't think people aren't noticing his hypocrisy as well. He signed a bill allowing creationism to be discussed in schools for example.

But he has been on fire lately maybe the real Jindal is finally standing up.
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Old 11-15-2012, 07:30 AM   #11
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I don't know anything about his volcano insurance but don't think people aren't noticing his hypocrisy as well. He signed a bill allowing creationism to be discussed in schools for example.

But he has been on fire lately maybe the real Jindal is finally standing up.
Well, that's his right as a governor in the Bible Belt. You progs just will not let different areas have their own values. It has to be YOUR values.

Meanwhile, such an issue isn't one for the federal govt and particularly not for a president. You guys have been busy gutting federalism.
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Old 11-15-2012, 07:31 AM   #12
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The country has been divided for several years now and it's only going to get worse. Anyone who thinks this problem is just going to magically go away, is either delusional, or smoking crack.
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Old 11-15-2012, 07:32 AM   #13
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The country has been divided for several years now and it's only going to get worse. Anyone who thinks this problem is just going to magically go away, is either delusional, or smoking crack.
I am hopeful that it will get some what better. There is a lot of big things we can get fixed if the extremists on both sides are shut out.
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Old 11-15-2012, 07:33 AM   #14
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The country has been divided for several years now and it's only going to get worse. Anyone who thinks this problem is just going to magically go away, is either delusional, or smoking crack.
I believe the same. To act like it's the Republicans alone causing division is dumb. Democrats do the same type of thing by painting Republicans as racists or haters of women.
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Old 11-15-2012, 07:36 AM   #15
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In these remaining moments that Mitt Romney remains a national figure, I have to ask: Does he not understand the transactional nature of government spending? This is a candidate who stumped in coal country promising to save the industry from health regulations and the natural gas industry, and who stumped in Virginia promising to increase spending on the defense programs that employed people in Tidewater.

I'm sure Romney gets this, and I'm sure -- because he keeps saying it -- that he views social programs as a dirtier deal for votes than actual spending on jobs that benefit certain constituencies. What's fascinating is that he keeps saying this to donors. The "47% tape" was recorded in front of wealthy donors who didn't understand why the rest of the country didn't back a candidate who was going to cut their taxes. Romney understood, and understands, that these people want to believe that poor voters are being exploited by Democrats and forced to vote themselves more benefits. It's a theory that undergirds a lot of conservative election analysis. Let's not just write off Romney as some gormless dweeb.
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