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Old 11-10-2012, 05:15 PM  
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The SEC... REALLY?

This conference is head and shoulders above all others?
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Old 11-11-2012, 03:10 PM   #181
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Why? Notre Dame's schedule is stronger than both Oregon's and K-State's and by seasons end will rate stronger than Alabama's. If you want to look at like opponents, compare K-State's game vs. OU against the Irish's. If all three end up undefeated, Notre Dame will have just as strong of an argument as either of the other two.
Well, except for the fact that Notre Dame essentially had two ties this year at home. They won both games in overtime, and nobody can argue that Stanford and Pitt are tough teams. Obviously a win is a win, but if you're going to talk strength of schedule, you should also talk quality of wins.
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Old 11-11-2012, 03:39 PM   #182
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LSU > Oklahoma

aTm > Stanford

Michigan = Michigan (Bama won by 27, ND won by 7)

Mississippi St. > Michigan St.
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SEC East Champ > USC
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Old 11-11-2012, 03:55 PM   #183
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LSU > Oklahoma

aTm > Stanford

Michigan = Michigan (Bama won by 27, ND won by 7)

Mississippi St. > Michigan St.
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Not yet played

SEC East Champ > USC
Mississippi St. = most overrated team in country (how we're they ever ranked)

Oklahoma = have lost to the number 1 and 3 teams in the country.

Georgia? = are they really any good? They have played a total of 2 ranked teams and got blown out by South Carolina.

The SEC bias of voters really scews the polls. If Notre Dame, K-State, or Oregon had lost 35 - 7 to South Carolina, they wouldn't even be thought of as a top 5 hell maybe even a top 10 team.
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Old 11-11-2012, 04:41 PM   #184
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Oklahoma = have lost to the number 1 and 3 teams in the country.

Georgia? = are they really any good? They have played a total of 2 ranked teams and got blown out by South Carolina.
Oklahoma gets credit because they lost to the number 1 and 3 teams even though their best win (and only win against a ranked opponent) was against the #17 team in the country.

Georgia might not be any good despite their only loss being to the #8 team and having beat the #6 team.

Mississippi State shouldn't have been ranked when they were 7-0 because they have since lost three games to three top 10 teams.


It's amazing how people have to contort things in order to make their conferences look like they are in the same universe as the SEC.
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Old 11-11-2012, 05:29 PM   #185
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5 SEC teams in the top 10.
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Old 11-11-2012, 05:34 PM   #186
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5 SEC teams in the top 10.
All other conferences combined: 4
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Old 11-11-2012, 05:37 PM   #187
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Old 11-11-2012, 05:41 PM   #188
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Old 11-11-2012, 05:43 PM   #189
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Old 11-11-2012, 05:44 PM   #190
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Alabama is still #1 statistically with the toughest schedule of the elite teams. Not surprising.
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Old 11-11-2012, 06:30 PM   #191
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Oklahoma gets credit because they lost to the number 1 and 3 teams even though their best win (and only win against a ranked opponent) was against the #17 team in the country.

Georgia might not be any good despite their only loss being to the #8 team and having beat the #6 team.

Mississippi State shouldn't have been ranked when they were 7-0 because they have since lost three games to three top 10 teams.


It's amazing how people have to contort things in order to make their conferences look like they are in the same universe as the SEC.
Miss. St. should never have been ranked as high as they were. They had played exactly zero teams of any significance. They have since been blown out in three consecutive games. I know they were all against ranked opponents, but they weren't competitive in any of the three games. They were a fraud.

How high do you think Oregon, K-State, or Notre Dame would be ranked in the BCS if they had a 28 point loss to South Carolina on their record and on top of that only had one win against a ranked opponent? I guarantee it would be nowhere near the top five.

This has never been an argument about what the best conference in college football is. I agree it is the SEC, but the SEC is not "head and shoulders" above every other conference or as you say "in another universe." SEC teams get consistently ranked higher than their résumés suggest because they are members of the SEC. Anyone with a working set of eyeballs can see that the play in the SEC is down this year compared to previous years.
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This conference is head and shoulders above all others?
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Old 11-11-2012, 06:42 PM   #193
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This has never been an argument about what the best conference in college football is. I agree it is the SEC, but the SEC is not "head and shoulders" above every other conference or as you say "in another universe." SEC teams get consistently ranked higher than their résumés suggest because they are members of the SEC. Anyone with a working set of eyeballs can see that the play in the SEC is down this year compared to previous years.
They are so far above everyone else it isn't funny. Trying to say otherwise is retarded.

Look at the top 12 teams in the BCS. Note all the Big 12, B1G, ACC and PAC teams there. They have less teams in there combined than the SEC does...

We all know if ND, Oregon, or KSU were in the SEC they'd still be undefeated....
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Old 11-11-2012, 06:48 PM   #194
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Miss. St. should never have been ranked as high as they were. They had played exactly zero teams of any significance. They have since been blown out in three consecutive games. I know they were all against ranked opponents, but they weren't competitive in any of the three games. They were a fraud.

How high do you think Oregon, K-State, or Notre Dame would be ranked in the BCS if they had a 28 point loss to South Carolina on their record and on top of that only had one win against a ranked opponent? I guarantee it would be nowhere near the top five.

This has never been an argument about what the best conference in college football is. I agree it is the SEC, but the SEC is not "head and shoulders" above every other conference or as you say "in another universe." SEC teams get consistently ranked higher than their résumés suggest because they are members of the SEC. Anyone with a working set of eyeballs can see that the play in the SEC is down this year compared to previous years.
What is the second best conference?
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Old 11-11-2012, 07:08 PM   #195
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They are so far above everyone else it isn't funny. Trying to say otherwise is retarded.

Look at the top 12 teams in the BCS. Note all the Big 12, B1G, ACC and PAC teams there. They have less teams in there combined than the SEC does...

We all know if ND, Oregon, or KSU were in the SEC they'd still be undefeated....
I've already covered the consistent over ranking of SEC teams.

If they played Alabama or Georgia's schedule they would play less ranked teams then they play now. And why would they have to be undefeated? That would make them clearly better than any other team in the SEC, since there aren't any undefeated teams in the SEC.

Tell me how highly ranked you think Notre Dame, Oregon, or K-State would be if they had a 28 point loss to South Carolina on their record?
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