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Old 11-10-2012, 05:20 PM  
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Texas to withdraw from the United States of America

Is this BS or what?


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Peacefully grant the State of Texas to withdraw from the United States of America and create its own NEW government.
The US continues to suffer economic difficulties stemming from the federal government's neglect to reform domestic and foreign spending. The citizens of the US suffer from blatant abuses of their rights such as the NDAA, the TSA, etc. Given that the state of Texas maintains a balanced budget and is the 15th largest economy in the world, it is practically feasible for Texas to withdraw from the union, and to do so would protect it's citizens' standard of living and re-secure their rights and liberties in accordance with the original ideas and beliefs of our founding fathers which are no longer being reflected by the federal government.
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Old 11-12-2012, 09:54 AM   #181
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Bwaaaahahahahahahaha My great great grand dad Bloody Bill Anderson is rolling over in his grave laughing. So is my oldman who spent 42 years in the military. & all my family that fought in the Civil war,WWI,WWII,& Vietnam.
Now go back to Mexico & fix your country.
You seem proud of being a direct decendant of Bloody Bill Anderson. GGEEEEZZZ, Bloody Bill Anderson was a very horrible man. That dude went from horse thief to robbing citizens on the road to killing people. When he joined Quatrille raiders he was so ruthless that they kidnapped his family to get him to back off on the useless carnage and killing.

He was such a whacko murderer that even the Raiders wouldn't have him and kicked him out. All he did after that with his life was kill people and take their property. For crissaked the centrilia massacre was him.

We have no choice into what family we are born, you are not responsible for your great great grand dad's actions but, that's not a part of your family history that you should be proud of. Just my two cents.
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Old 11-12-2012, 10:20 AM   #182
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OMG I bet you know everything about everything! How could you not? I mean you are in financial white knight for H&R Block that steals the husband's pension from little old widows.

Yeah it is a matter of time...A long ****ing time. You don't know shit.

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You know what's sad about this? When Hispanics turn this state blue in short order, you'll go from being a fresa to someone who is proud of his heritage and who was right all along.
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Old 11-12-2012, 10:22 AM   #183
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You seem proud of being a direct decendant of Bloody Bill Anderson. GGEEEEZZZ, Bloody Bill Anderson was a very horrible man. That dude went from horse thief to robbing citizens on the road to killing people. When he joined Quatrille raiders he was so ruthless that they kidnapped his family to get him to back off on the useless carnage and killing.

He was such a whacko murderer that even the Raiders wouldn't have him and kicked him out. All he did after that with his life was kill people and take their property. For crissaked the centrilia massacre was him.

We have no choice into what family we are born, you are not responsible for your great great grand dad's actions but, that's not a part of your family history that you should be proud of. Just my two cents.
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Old 11-12-2012, 10:25 AM   #184
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You seem proud of being a direct decendant of Bloody Bill Anderson. GGEEEEZZZ, Bloody Bill Anderson was a very horrible man. That dude went from horse thief to robbing citizens on the road to killing people. When he joined Quatrille raiders he was so ruthless that they kidnapped his family to get him to back off on the useless carnage and killing.

He was such a whacko murderer that even the Raiders wouldn't have him and kicked him out. All he did after that with his life was kill people and take their property. For crissaked the centrilia massacre was him.

We have no choice into what family we are born, you are not responsible for your great great grand dad's actions but, that's not a part of your family history that you should be proud of. Just my two cents.
For starters, Bloody Bill has no descendants - he died at age 24 and didn't have any children. LS may be related to him, however, as is one of my cousins. And he was pretty bad, as the nickname implies, but he wasn't kicked out of the Raiders. Later in the war Quantrill lost control of the group and it splintered. Anderson was a leader of one of those splinter groups when he died.

And Anderson's sisters were detained by the Union for providing the guerrilas with intelligence. It was after one of them was killed in a building collapse that Anderson developed his bloodthirsty reputation.
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Old 11-12-2012, 10:29 AM   #185
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You seem proud of being a direct decendant of Bloody Bill Anderson. GGEEEEZZZ, Bloody Bill Anderson was a very horrible man. That dude went from horse thief to robbing citizens on the road to killing people. When he joined Quatrille raiders he was so ruthless that they kidnapped his family to get him to back off on the useless carnage and killing.

He was such a whacko murderer that even the Raiders wouldn't have him and kicked him out. All he did after that with his life was kill people and take their property. For crissaked the centrilia massacre was him.

We have no choice into what family we are born, you are not responsible for your great great grand dad's actions but, that's not a part of your family history that you should be proud of. Just my two cents.
After his fathers murder He became a very bad man for sure. My mother's side of the family moved from Kan to Illinois to escape reprisals from Jay-hawkers. My mom was born in Aledo Ill in 1935.

He wasn't kicked out by Quantrell either. He left willingly & with many of the Q-raiders & headed out of Texas & back to Missouri. He killed union solders & union sympathizer's. You are trying to make out like he went around killing anything that moved or looked at him wrong. Just aint so.

& centrilia massacre was an act of war against union solders on a Union passenger train The ambush that happened later >well thats what you do in times of war
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Old 11-12-2012, 10:37 AM   #186
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For starters, Bloody Bill has no descendants
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Bwaaaahahahahahahaha My great great grand dad Bloody Bill Anderson is rolling over in his grave laughing.
how can these two posts be right.
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Old 11-12-2012, 10:39 AM   #187
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For starters, Bloody Bill has no descendants - he died at age 24 and didn't have any children. LS may be related to him, however, as is one of my cousins. And he was pretty bad, as the nickname implies, but he wasn't kicked out of the Raiders. Later in the war Quantrill lost control of the group and it splintered. Anderson was a leader of one of those splinter groups when he died.

And Anderson's sisters were detained by the Union for providing the guerrilas with intelligence. It was after one of them was killed in a building collapse that Anderson developed his bloodthirsty reputation.
Hes not my great great great grand dad?
I will be bring this subject up with the family at thanksgiving for sure.
I bet I get several different stories.
& you are right he had no known children so grand dad is out.
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Old 11-12-2012, 10:40 AM   #188
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After his fathers murder He became a very bad man for sure. My mother's side of the family moved from Kan to Illinois to escape reprisals from Jay-hawkers. My mom was born in Aledo Ill in 1935.

He wasn't kicked out by Quantrell either. He left willingly & with many of the Q-raiders & headed out of Texas & back to Missouri. He killed union solders & union sympathizer's. You are trying to make out like he went around killing anything that moved or looked at him wrong. Just aint so.

& centrilia massacre was an act of war against union solders on a Union passenger train The ambush that happened later >well thats what you do in times of war
The history books don't see the majority of his actions as just "acts of war". Either way he was a ruthless man bent on killing.

But, just to be crystal clear that has nothing whatsoever to do with how LiveSteam acts or is as a person in 2012.
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Old 11-12-2012, 10:41 AM   #189
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how can these two posts be right.
They cant.

But im sure I was told years ago he is your kids great great grand dad. its been 25-30 years ago since I heard the story. Like I just said I will be bringing this subject up at Thanksgiving when the hole family gets together.
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But, just to be crystal clear that has nothing whatsoever to do with how LiveSteam acts or is as a person in 2012.
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The history books don't see the majority of his actions as just "acts of war". Either way he was a ruthless man bent on killing.

But, just to be crystal clear that has nothing whatsoever to do with how LiveSteam acts or is as a person in 2012.
Lots of reasons for that. Most of the guerrillas were either in their teens or early 20s, raised in a violent time few of us could imagine. Many had lost family members and their homes. And they weren't part of a structured military, so there was no positive influence to temper or control their violent behavior. This is what happens to young men in violent times. Some come out of it worse than others. It's not like these kids were devil worshipping monsters who decided to kill people for kicks.

Wouldn't you be pissed if somebody dropped a building on your sister? Or hung your father from a tree and burned your house to the ground? Or murdered friends in the middle of the night just because they happened to be home? You've talked about what a badass you were in your youth - take away all control and imagine what you would have been like had you lived during this time.
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you are a pathitic little man. Instead of debating on the principles or issues you decide to jump to personal insults.

Are you feeling like a bigger person now? Did that improve your self esteem? what is the point of your personal attack that has nothing to do with Texas seceding from the USA?
Keep your passive/aggressive bullshit to yourself.
You know what you do here. If you want to dish it out don't cry when it comes time to take it.

Your self loathing is your right; you thinking you are free to spread it to others is not.
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Old 11-12-2012, 11:09 AM   #193
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You're a bitch. **** hiding behind rep comments.

Myself and my family have contributed more to this country than your inbred family ever will.

Like I told failpuss, have fun growing old and bitter and watching the fake notion of what you thought the US was crumble.

Do the world a favor and swallow a bullet you angry bitch.
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Hes not my great great great grand dad?
I will be bring this subject up with the family at thanksgiving for sure.
I bet I get several different stories.
& you are right he had no known children so grand dad is out.
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Hes not my great great great grand dad?
I will be bring this subject up with the family at thanksgiving for sure.
I bet I get several different stories.
& you are right he had no known children so grand dad is out.
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