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Old 11-10-2012, 04:20 PM  
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Texas to withdraw from the United States of America

Is this BS or what?


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Peacefully grant the State of Texas to withdraw from the United States of America and create its own NEW government.
The US continues to suffer economic difficulties stemming from the federal government's neglect to reform domestic and foreign spending. The citizens of the US suffer from blatant abuses of their rights such as the NDAA, the TSA, etc. Given that the state of Texas maintains a balanced budget and is the 15th largest economy in the world, it is practically feasible for Texas to withdraw from the union, and to do so would protect it's citizens' standard of living and re-secure their rights and liberties in accordance with the original ideas and beliefs of our founding fathers which are no longer being reflected by the federal government.
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Old 11-12-2012, 08:58 PM   #226
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Here's what they put on the site:

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"The right to petition your government is guaranteed by the First Amendment of the United States Constitution. We the People provides a new way to petition the Obama Administration to take action on a range of important issues facing our country. We created We the People because we want to hear from you. If a petition gets enough support, White House staff will review it, ensure it’s sent to the appropriate policy experts, and issue an official response."

https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/how-why/introduction
Sure, they could ignore it because it's stupid. But they do say that they will issue an official response if the petition "gets enough support" and I assume that their own 25k goal would be considered "enough support."
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Old 11-12-2012, 09:01 PM   #227
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Sure, they could ignore it because it's stupid. But they do say that they will issue an official response if the petition "gets enough support" and I assume that their own 25k goal would be considered "enough support."
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To avoid the appearance of improper influence, the White House may decline to address certain procurement, law enforcement, adjudicatory, or similar matters properly within the jurisdiction of federal departments or agencies, federal courts, or state and local government in its response to a petition.

The White House reserves the right to change the time limits and signature thresholds and apply them to petitions created after the change has been published to this “Current thresholds” section:
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Old 11-12-2012, 09:24 PM   #228
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Old 11-12-2012, 09:42 PM   #229
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Lol if it's any consolation I want to hear Barry tell them to as much as you do.
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Old 11-12-2012, 09:56 PM   #230
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Old 11-12-2012, 11:09 PM   #231
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Never going to happen. Not in our life times. All this is, the minority that is the angry white America that want their country back lashing out in anger.

Man are they going to be pissed when the Latinos take over the state in 2020.
if that happpened and they had no help from the US, THat shit would be wild wild west there with Cartel's running the show, that border would be overran so ****ing fast.
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Old 11-13-2012, 05:38 AM   #232
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Looks like we found a 47%er that voted for Romney. See? Not everyone who voted for Obama wants your money. This guy was begging to give up what little he had.
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Old 11-14-2012, 01:39 AM   #233
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Hah. The petition has almost 95k votes. I wonder how many of those are people from the rest of the country that want Texans to go away?
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Old 11-14-2012, 03:05 AM   #234
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Hah. The petition has almost 95k votes. I wonder how many of those are people from the rest of the country that want Texans to go away?
Why would you want Texas to go away? Texas is one of the most prosperous states in the United States, losing them would be devastating. Now losing California, that wouldn't be too bad.
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Old 11-14-2012, 05:04 AM   #235
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As noted in Wikipedia, the Texas economy is the largest one that's still growing in the U.S., and in 2006 the state was home of six of the top 50 companies on the Fortune 500 list and 58 of the top 500 -- the most of any state. In 2008, the state had a Gross Domestic Product of $1.245 trillion, second-largest in the U.S. and 15th-largest in the world.

Texas currently conducts more than $150 billion a year in trade with other nations; it leads all other states in exports, and has for five consecutive years. In 2005, per-capita domestic production in Texas was $42,975 per person.

Texas has the second-largest workforce in the nation, some 11 million citizen workers, and an unemployment rate among the lowest in the U.S. The reason for that: the state government has made economic development a priority in recent years, and has helped create a favorable business climate for companies looking to relocate. Texas also eschews a state-level income tax on prooductivity and its real-estate prices compared to other states and regions remains largely undervalued.

Moreover, the state's economy is far from the two-dimensional stereotype commonly portrayed. Texas is a lot more than just cattle and oil.

Sure, Texas leads the nation in the production of beef, oil and natural gas. It also leads the nation in both the production of alternative energy and in the construction of new alternative energy productin facilities; an independent Texas would be completely energy-independent and among the world's leading exporters of oil, natural gas and energy products.

Texas also has a thriving lumber industry based in the eastern part of the state, while the Dallas-Fort Worth Metroplex is a key center for the defense industry, a banking center and the information technology industry. Texas is the nation's No.2 manufacturer of computers, components and electronmic equipment.

The Houston/Beaumont area features the world's largest concentration of petrochemical refining and production facilities, and Houston is a major center of medical and biomedical research, aerospace research and shipping. The Port of Houston is the largest port in the nation and sixth-largest in the world.

Texas is also a leader in the production of cement, crushed stone, lime, salt and sand and gravel.

The state is also among the world's leaders in the production of rice and cotton, primarily along the Gulf Coast, and in the production of citrus products in the Rio Grande Valley. Texas features the most farms, both in terms of numbers and in acreage, in the nation.

In addition to cattle, Texas also leads nationally in the production of sheep and goats. The Texas Panhandle and South Plains has also become a major producer of cereal crops.

Texas agricuture is also a leader in the production of greenhouse and nursery products, corn, hay and wheat. The state ranks No.2 in the nation in the production of sorghum. Peanuts and sugar cane are other valuable crops, along with onions, potatoes, watermelons and grapefruit. Texas farmers lead the nation in the production of cabbage.

Texas has another brand of famrer as well: Texas' fishing industry thrives. The state is among the nation's leaders in its annual shrimp catch, and both commercial and sport fishing are major industries. In addition, there is a growing commercial catfish-farming industry.

Despite some setbacks in K-12 education over the last 15 years or so when Texas bcame infected with the failed "New Standards" education "reforms" of former Governor and President George W. Bush, by and large the state retains a solid reputation for its higher education system, from premier universities such as Rice, SMU, Baylor, Texas and Texas A&M to a broad array of junior colleges and trade schools. That has helped create a more adaptable work force which has in turn helped fuel the diversification of the state's economy since the oil bust of the 1970s.

Clearly, Texas features an economy which would enable an independent republic to thrive. The question is whether or not the United States would be vindictive enough to attempt to embargo Texas should it secede--and whether or not that embargo would work.

A peaceful secession process and thoughtful negotiation with the U.S. on a wide range of issues--economic, military, and social--should preclude any vindictiveness on the part of Washington. America would pick up a strong new trading partner and valuable new ally, and even an independnet Texas could not ignore its long-established ties to the remaining states.

Moreover, independence would also enable the new Republic to seek its own markets for its products and new partnerships with other nations, free of the often-contradictory constraints of U.S. foreign policy. Many Texans already reject NAFTA for its favoritism toward other countries, and not being part of NAFTA doesn't mean Texas couldn't still trade with its neighbors in the Western Hemisphere.

It's easy to attempt to belittle the Texas independence movement with stereotypes, but far harder to beat it with facts. And the fact is, a Republic of Texas would be eminently economically healthy.

http://www.examiner.com/article/coul...-facts-say-yes
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Old 11-14-2012, 05:13 AM   #236
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Why would you want Texas to go away? Texas is one of the most prosperous states in the United States, losing them would be devastating. Now losing California, that wouldn't be too bad.
Well, we keep hearing that demographics will make it turn Democrat soon, so that won't last too much longer.
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Old 11-14-2012, 05:16 AM   #237
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If more states were like Texas, this country would be a lot stronger.

Period.

Laugh all you want but Texas has done it right for years.

We even set up a nice little concentration camp for the liberals out in Austin.
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Old 11-14-2012, 05:29 AM   #238
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I lived in Pennsylvania and New York state and people there would be super excited if a new grocery store or restaurant was built. There's a new one every few months around here.

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Old 11-14-2012, 08:30 AM   #239
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You seem proud of being a direct decendant of Bloody Bill Anderson. GGEEEEZZZ, Bloody Bill Anderson was a very horrible man. That dude went from horse thief to robbing citizens on the road to killing people. When he joined Quatrille raiders he was so ruthless that they kidnapped his family to get him to back off on the useless carnage and killing.

He was such a whacko murderer that even the Raiders wouldn't have him and kicked him out. All he did after that with his life was kill people and take their property. For crissaked the centrilia massacre was him.

We have no choice into what family we are born, you are not responsible for your great great grand dad's actions but, that's not a part of your family history that you should be proud of. Just my two cents.
You must be a Union sympathizer. FTR, the Union kidnapped his family and held them hostage. One of his sisters died while being unlawfully detained. That's not something you should be proud of.
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Old 11-14-2012, 08:36 AM   #240
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I voted on one of those WH petition drives on something else once. It was a non-partisan, not really a political issue too. They are usually not taken up even with the needed signatures. I don't know why the Obama administration even bothers with it. Besides, if they wanted to secede, it's not like a petition is even needed. Do they think their request would actually be granted? Central govts never like to give up power or control.
They probably just want to collect email addresses or something.
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