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**OFFICIAL** Illegal Immigration Reform Thread.
You know its coming. As soon as the fiscal cliff is finished, illegal immigration is next.
Sen. Graham and Sen. Shumar have already resumed their illegal immigration talks from two years ago. Both were on the sunday shows talking about the plan. Both are seeing a possible huge bi-partisan deal is now possible based on their earlier work form two years ago. Main points of the deal:
Today a group of powerful U.S. Senators announced they have agreed to a framework on comprehensive immigration reform. The bipartisan group includes Senators Chuck Schumer (D-NY), Dick Durbin (D-IL), Bob Menendez (D-NJ), Michael Bennett (D-CO), Lindsey Graham (R-SC), Marco Rubio (R-FL), John McCain (R-AZ), and Jeff Flake (R-AZ). The fact that both parties have agreed to the deal gives it much better prospects for passage. Path to Citizenship
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There isn't a legal immigration problem in this country. There is an illegal one. The Citizenship path in this country is of sufficient wait, monetary commitment, and scrutiny. It takes five years of living here and a six month to 1.5 years application process. It's by far one of the easier places to become a citizen compared to a number of 1st world countries. Heck in Greece you have to live there 10 of 12 consecutive years. In France one of your parents have to be French and then you have to pass an interview...IN FRENCH. Britian...Russia...very much the same as ours. You have to live here for 5 years.
Now you may say...They can't get the Visa to live here the 5 years legally. That may be true and is on a case-by-case bases. People we allow to become a Citizen must be able to offer something to this country. That is a fair and just request. |
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Part of the article from the Wall street Journal. Looks like the Republicans and Obama are going to tackle immigration first.
Republicans feel the way Rubio does, that the GOP needs to tackle immigration reform to be able to speak to Hispanic voters about other issues. And Rubio is taking a lead on the effort, proposing a blueprint for reform in his interview with The Wall Street Journal. He struck a middle path in the interview, suggesting solutions that will appease some, but not all, on both sides of the aisle. His most controversial position comes on a pathway to citizenship for undocumented immigrants. Rubio believes that there should be a staged process to pursue citizenship; that undocumented immigrants should come forward and go through a process to receive legal status, but should also be able to ultimately achieve citizenship. "They would have to come forward. They would have to undergo a background check…They would be fingerprinted…They would have to pay a fine, pay back taxes, maybe even do community service. They would have to prove they've been here for an extended period of time. They understand some English and are assimilated. Then most of them would get legal status and be allowed to stay in this country," he said. "They'd get behind everybody who came before them" in line for citizenship, Rubio adds, but he does believe they should be able to achieve citizenship someday. He also suggested the process should be expedited for young undocumented immigrants brought to the U.S. by their parents. Rubio suggested that the U.S. needs to "move toward merit and skill-based immigration," and raise the cap on skilled and entrepreneurial immigrants. He also stressed the need to revamp the guest-worker system to make sure that the number and type of guest worker visas is sufficient to fulfill the demand in the nation's farms. But he added that some sort of technological solution, along the lines of the E-Verify system that checks immigration documents, to ensure that those farm workers are following the law. It seems that Rubio is already going through the planning stages of the reform push; he also suggested the means of getting legislation passed through Congress: Four or five comprehensive bills, rather than one large omnibus, the latter of which has been used to pass health care reform and rankled some Republicans. Republicans feel the way Rubio does, that the GOP needs to tackle immigration reform to be able to speak to Hispanic voters about other issues. And Rubio is taking a lead on the effort, proposing a blueprint for reform in his interview with The Wall Street Journal. He struck a middle path in the interview, suggesting solutions that will appease some, but not all, on both sides of the aisle. His most controversial position comes on a pathway to citizenship for undocumented immigrants. Rubio believes that there should be a staged process to pursue citizenship; that undocumented immigrants should come forward and go through a process to receive legal status, but should also be able to ultimately achieve citizenship. "They would have to come forward. They would have to undergo a background check…They would be fingerprinted…They would have to pay a fine, pay back taxes, maybe even do community service. They would have to prove they've been here for an extended period of time. They understand some English and are assimilated. Then most of them would get legal status and be allowed to stay in this country," he said. "They'd get behind everybody who came before them" in line for citizenship, Rubio adds, but he does believe they should be able to achieve citizenship someday. He also suggested the process should be expedited for young undocumented immigrants brought to the U.S. by their parents. Rubio suggested that the U.S. needs to "move toward merit and skill-based immigration," and raise the cap on skilled and entrepreneurial immigrants. He also stressed the need to revamp the guest-worker system to make sure that the number and type of guest worker visas is sufficient to fulfill the demand in the nation's farms. But he added that some sort of technological solution, along the lines of the E-Verify system that checks immigration documents, to ensure that those farm workers are following the law. It seems that Rubio is already going through the planning stages of the reform push; he also suggested the means of getting legislation passed through Congress: Four or five comprehensive bills, rather than one large omnibus, the latter of which has been used to pass health care reform and rankled some Republicans. |
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From the sunday talk shows it looks like it's going to happen. The R's are on board with pretty much everything. The only disagreement is how the path to citizenship is paved.
Obama supposedly to lay out specifics in the State of the Union. |
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Looks like Tuesday is the day when Obama announces his immigration plan.
http://www.latimes.com/news/politics...,5303860.story |
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Added to the opening post
Today a group of powerful U.S. Senators announced they have agreed to a framework on comprehensive immigration reform. The bipartisan group includes Senators Chuck Schumer (D-NY), Dick Durbin (D-IL), Bob Menendez (D-NJ), Michael Bennett (D-CO), Lindsey Graham (R-SC), Marco Rubio (R-FL), John McCain (R-AZ), and Jeff Flake (R-AZ). The fact that both parties have agreed to the deal gives it much better prospects for passage. If the package were to pass through the Senate with significant support from both parties it would put tremendous pressure on House Republicans to pass the bill as well. Here is a summary of what the bipartisan group has agreed to according to the Huffington Post. Path to Citizenship
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