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Old 11-15-2012, 02:10 PM  
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Rate Pioli's Draft Pick By Pick

Grade Pioli's drafts.


Cut and paste the list and place your grades next to each pick. Please grade on the curve, meaning you need to take into account where they were drafted along with production.

Example: 1. Tyson Jackson F-



2012

1. Dontari Poe
2. Jeff Allen
3. Donald Stephenson
4. Devon Wylie
5. DeQuan Menzie
6. Cyrus Gray
7. Jerome Long
7. Junior Hemingway


2011

1. Jonathan Baldwin
2. Rodney Hudson
3. Justin Houston
3. Allen Bailey
4. Jalil Brown
5. Ricky Stanzi
5. Gabe Miller
6. Jerrell Powe
7. Shane Bannon

2010

1 Eric Berry
2 Dexter McCluster
2 Javier Arenas
3 Jon Asamoah
3 Tony Moeaki
5 Kendrick Lewis
5 Cameron Sheffield

2009

1 Tyson Jackson
2. **** You Pioli
3 Alex Magee
4 Donald Washington
5 Colin Brown
6 Quinten Lawrence
7 Javarris Williams
7 Jake O'Connell
7 Ryan Succop


It will be nice to destroy Pioli's supposed "strength" when it comes to the draft piece by piece.
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Old 11-15-2012, 04:02 PM   #31
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He was a good project QB. Taking him in the 5th was a very good value.
He was possibly a good project 2 years ago... He's not a project anymore. He's useless... get your head out of the sand.
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Old 11-15-2012, 04:02 PM   #32
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I don't care about the Berry choice. We all wanted it and I think hindsight is 20/20 if we criticize the pick now. I still think he can improve with better coaching.
i wanted Earl Thomas during that draft but hey i like Texas.
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Old 11-15-2012, 04:04 PM   #33
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Some of you guys are rough.. Like Eric Berry for instance, I still give that an A.. He's been disappointing this year, but he seems to of improved big time the last couple games. Hope we get a d-coordinator that plays him like he should be
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Old 11-15-2012, 04:06 PM   #34
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2012

1. Dontari Poe - C
2. Jeff Allen - C
3. Donald Stephenson - D
4. Devon Wylie - D
5. DeQuan Menzie - D
6. Cyrus Gray - D
7. Jerome Long - F
7. Junior Hemingway - F


2011

1. Jonathan Baldwin - F
2. Rodney Hudson - C
3. Justin Houston - A
3. Allen Bailey - C
4. Jalil Brown - D
5. Ricky Stanzi - F
5. Gabe Miller - F
6. Jerrell Powe - C
7. Shane Bannon - F

2010

1 Eric Berry - B
2 Dexter McCluster - C+
2 Javier Arenas - D
3 Jon Asamoah - B
3 Tony Moeaki - C
5 Kendrick Lewis - C+
5 Cameron Sheffield - D-

2009

1 Tyson Jackson - F
2. Matt Cassel- F
3 Alex Magee - F
4 Donald Washington - F
5 Colin Brown - F
6 Quinten Lawrence - F
7 Javarris Williams - F
7 Jake O'Connell - F
7 Ryan Succop - B


2009 has to be the worst draft I have ever seen.
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Old 11-15-2012, 04:06 PM   #35
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Some of you guys are rough.. Like Eric Berry for instance, I still give that an A.. He's been disappointing this year, but he seems to of improved big time the last couple games. Hope we get a d-coordinator that plays him like he should be
Berry's excellent as a run defender but he looks like Halli Berry in pass coverage.
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Old 11-15-2012, 04:13 PM   #36
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2012 - I

2011

1. Jonathan Baldwin - I (can't give a guy a grade who relies on an F and doesn't look his way.)
2. Rodney Hudson - B
3. Justin Houston - A
3. Allen Bailey - D
4. Jalil Brown - F
5. Ricky Stanzi - F
5. Gabe Miller - F
6. Jerrell Powe - D
7. Shane Bannon - F

2010

1 Eric Berry - B
2 Dexter McCluster - C
2 Javier Arenas - D
3 Jon Asamoah - B
3 Tony Moeaki - C
5 Kendrick Lewis - C
5 Cameron Sheffield - F

2009

1 Tyson Jackson - F
2. **** You Pioli - F
3 Alex Magee - F
4 Donald Washington - F
5 Colin Brown - F
6 Quinten Lawrence - F
7 Javarris Williams - F
7 Jake O'Connell - F
7 Ryan Succop - B
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Old 11-15-2012, 04:31 PM   #37
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He was possibly a good project 2 years ago... He's not a project anymore. He's useless... get your head out of the sand.
My head isn't in the sand. I have no delusions about Stanzi.

I am not going to argue against the Chiefs taking a chance at a QB, especially one who fell below where he probably should have. The 5th round was a terrific value for Stanzi. You expect that a 5th round QB is going to have high bust potential. It was a great pick, even if it didn't pan out (and we're assuming it didn't pan out, by the way, based on some preseason struggles).
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Old 11-15-2012, 04:33 PM   #38
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My head isn't in the sand. I have no delusions about Stanzi.
Clearly...
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Old 11-15-2012, 04:34 PM   #39
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2012

1. Dontari Poe - D (good player but needed a QB here)
2. Jeff Allen - C
3. Donald Stephenson - C
4. Devon Wylie - F (Reach)
5. DeQuan Menzie - D
6. Cyrus Gray - D
7. Jerome Long - F
7. Junior Hemingway - F


2011

1. Jonathan Baldwin - C
2. Rodney Hudson - A
3. Justin Houston - A
3. Allen Bailey - D
4. Jalil Brown - C
5. Ricky Stanzi - B Good value
5. Gabe Miller - F
6. Jerrell Powe - B
7. Shane Bannon - F

2010

1 Eric Berry - A
2 Dexter McCluster - F
2 Javier Arenas - D
3 Jon Asamoah - B
3 Tony Moeaki - C
5 Kendrick Lewis - B
5 Cameron Sheffield - F

2009

1 Tyson Jackson - F
2. **** You Pioli
3 Alex Magee - F
4 Donald Washington - F
5 Colin Brown - F
6 Quinten Lawrence - F
7 Javarris Williams - F
7 Jake O'Connell - F
7 Ryan Succop - A

Pioli waisted our entire 2009 draft. **** you Pioli.
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Old 11-15-2012, 04:37 PM   #40
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2012 INCOMPLETE--But so far, I only like Poe.

1. Dontari Poe
2. Jeff Allen
3. Donald Stephenson
4. Devon Wylie
5. DeQuan Menzie
6. Cyrus Gray
7. Jerome Long
7. Junior Hemingway


2011

1. Jonathan Baldwin -F, but hard to evaluate with crapastic QB
2. Rodney Hudson -D
3. Justin Houston -A+, but they are using him wrong. Needs to rush passer more
3. Allen Bailey -A. The best DE on the roster with two former top 5 picks.
4. Jalil Brown - C-
5. Ricky Stanzi - F. Couldn't beat out Palko last year. Can't beat out Cassel and Quinn this year
5. Gabe Miller - F
6. Jerrell Powe - B. In his limited time this year I have been impressed. I think he could be a starter if it wasn't for Poe.
7. Shane Bannon -F

2010

1 Eric Berry -B- Struggled for handful of games. Then became probowl level SS. Injured for year on cheap shot. REALLY struggled this year but over the last 3 games he's been very good.
2 Dexter McCluster -F-----. Hate him. Hated the pick. Hate the player now. Terrible drop rate. Caused a few INT's with his propensity to tip the ball up to the DB's
2 Javier Arenas -D. Just not that good. Terrible spot to draft a NOT THAT GOOD DB that can't take the ball to the house as a returner.
3 Jon Asamoah -C
3 Tony Moeaki -C. Draft an injury prone TE in college and what do you expect. Very good 1st year. Injured second. Bad 3rd year.
5 Kendrick Lewis - D. I'm sorry to the Kendrick Lewis fans but he's a terrible tackler and he makes some plays on the ball but he gives up a lot too. Injury prone.
5 Cameron Sheffield -F

2009

1 Tyson Jackson - F----- Worst 1st round pick I've seen in a long time for the Chiefs
2 Cassel. F-----Worst QB in the league.
3 Alex Magee - F
4 Donald Washington F
5 Colin Brown F
6 Quinten Lawrence F
7 Javarris Williams F
7 Jake O'Connell F
7 Ryan Succop C. I like him. Think he's a good kicker. But should have never had to draft a kicker here if you'd resign your quality players.


It will be nice to destroy Pioli's supposed "strength" when it comes to the draft piece by piece.[/quote]
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Old 11-15-2012, 04:37 PM   #41
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My head isn't in the sand. I have no delusions about Stanzi.

I am not going to argue against the Chiefs taking a chance at a QB, especially one who fell below where he probably should have. The 5th round was a terrific value for Stanzi. You expect that a 5th round QB is going to have high bust potential. It was a great pick, even if it didn't pan out (and we're assuming it didn't pan out, by the way, based on some preseason struggles).
Agreed. Not Stanzi's fault that even Joe Montana would have been benched so that Cassel would get all of the work regardless of how bad he was. **** You Pioli.
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Old 11-15-2012, 04:39 PM   #42
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2009 is one of the worst draft's in nfl history

to have the 3rd pick in every round and draft F+++ with every single ****ing pick (except for the last one) is mind destroying...
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Old 11-15-2012, 04:40 PM   #43
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Agreed. Not Stanzi's fault that even Joe Montana would have been benched so that Cassel would get all of the work regardless of how bad he was. **** You Pioli.
Stanzi is so good that Pioli cant even force one of his drafted Iowa players into a ****ing backup role... with dogshit at the position.
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Agreed. Not Stanzi's fault that even Joe Montana would have been benched so that Cassel would get all of the work regardless of how bad he was. **** You Pioli.
stanzi has failed to beat out palko and quinn...he isn't even dressing for games now

he sucks fat cock
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stanzi has failed to beat out palko and quinn...he isn't even dressing for games now

he sucks fat cock
He's probably lucky Tanney injured himself and was put on IR. Clipboard duties next season is probably going to be Stanzi vs Tanney. My money's on Tanney.
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