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Old 11-17-2012, 05:58 AM  
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Racial Slurs

We're having some posts being reported for the use of racial slurs in this forum. While it is widely known that there is some racism that goes on in this forum, those users have found a way to dance around the issue enough that the majority of moderators of this website have deemed the behavior fine for now.

It's really not okay to me at all. I don't believe that people of color should be subjected to that shit over political affiliations. That said, I'm a firm believer in a majority consensus so it is what it is at this point.

That said, overtly racial slurs will result in bannings. It is a bullet point in the TOS of this website, and not much is out of bounds. One user has already been banned, and another one has been warned. If you insist on trying to dance around racist comments, please be prepared for a vacation if you use a term that is deemed racist by the moderators. Thanks in advance for your cooperation.
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Old 11-19-2012, 09:05 AM   #256
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Common sense can't be your guide when words like pillowbiter, redneck and whore are allowed. There's no real rhyme or reason involved. It's all based on moderator whim at this point (except for words like ****er, pillowbitergot, person of Hispanic heritage, and to a lesser extent raghead which have been identified).
I have advocated for a while that they should have a list that way everyone knows upfront and no excuses.

Of course on the other hand there is a lot of posters on here that are pretty creative to get around using those words while still saying something racist or offensive.

I can see both sides to this argument...
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Old 11-19-2012, 09:09 AM   #257
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I have advocated for a while that they should have a list that way everyone knows upfront and no excuses.

Of course on the other hand there is a lot of posters on here that are pretty creative to get around using those words while still saying something racist or offensive.

I can see both sides to this argument...
Yes. The moderators shouldn't be so handcuffed by a list that they can't ban someone who's going way over the top but somehow avoiding all listed words, but it's really not too much to ask to have clearly identified words (like ****er, person of Hispanic heritage, raghead, and pillowbitergot) added to a list so that there's no excuse for their usage in an offensive manner).
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Old 11-19-2012, 09:09 AM   #258
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So are you suggesting that slurs against gay people, women, and country hicks are OK in a way that racial slurs are not or are you being hypertechnical about the thread topic?
I'm being hypertechnical about the thread topic? Did you just not ask for an exhaustive and continually updated list from the moderators of offensive words?
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Old 11-19-2012, 09:10 AM   #259
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I'm being hypertechnical about the thread topic? Did you just not ask for an exhaustive and continually updated list from the moderators of offensive words?
You didn't answer my question.
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Old 11-19-2012, 09:11 AM   #260
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You didn't answer my question.
No, I don't think I'm being hypertechnical about this. I'm against calling a woman a whore in principle, but the word is not socially condemned like derogatory racial slurs used against minorities. It's often used in a non-derogatory fashion. Redneck isn't derogatory at all. F****t is, which is why the filter bans it.
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Old 11-19-2012, 09:16 AM   #261
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Yes. The moderators shouldn't be so handcuffed by a list that they can't ban someone who's going way over the top but somehow avoiding all listed words, but it's really not too much to ask to have clearly identified words (like ****er, person of Hispanic heritage, raghead, and pillowbitergot) added to a list so that there's no excuse for their usage in an offensive manner).
I agree. Right now I think it is all ambiguous.
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Old 11-19-2012, 09:18 AM   #262
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No, I don't think I'm being hypertechnical about this. I'm against calling a woman a whore in principle, but the word is not socially condemned like derogatory racial slurs used against minorities. It's often used in a non-derogatory fashion. Redneck isn't derogatory at all. F****t is, which is why the filter bans it.
So you do think it's more OK to call a woman a whore or a poor rural person a redneck. I disagree.

You also seem to be able to live with the fact that pillowbitergot is an explicitly listed word, which seems to undermine your fear of the list.

BTW, someone should report you for filter evasion.
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Old 11-19-2012, 09:19 AM   #263
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So you do think it's more OK to call a woman a whore or a poor rural person a redneck. I disagree.

You also seem to be able to live with the fact that pillowbitergot is an explicitly listed word, which seems to undermine your fear of the list.

BTW, someone should report you for filter evasion.
I don't have a fear of certain words being filtered. That's a separate issue, really. I think it's nonsense that we demand moderators come up with a continually updated list of prohibited racial slurs, and constantly play catch-up to the vailpasses of this forum.
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Old 11-19-2012, 09:20 AM   #264
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It seems to me that you moderators have a duty, especially in this supposedly lightly moderated forum, to account for the fact that one side (the politically correct side) is going to report a lot of... let's call it borderline stuff... that the other side (the speech tolerance side) wouldn't report in reverse. If you only take action when posts are reported, especially in the absence of any clearly defined rules as to what words will trigger action, you're inevitably going to be acting in a biased manner.
That term is pretty much meaningless. 95% of complaints about "political correctness" are really just complaints about being able to be an obnoxious a-hole. Discouraging racial/ethnic slurs is not being "politically correct."

Also, we're on a message board. Its not like this is some noble 1st Amendment cause. Sticking up for people like vailpass (who sure is mentioned a lot on this topic) and Livesteam--why? You're really that concerned about someone being banned for some petty comment?
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Old 11-19-2012, 09:22 AM   #265
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That term is pretty much meaningless. 95% of complaints about "political correctness" are really just complaints about being able to be an obnoxious a-hole. Discouraging racial/ethnic slurs is not being "politically correct."

Also, we're on a message board. Its not like this is some noble 1st Amendment cause. Sticking up for people like vailpass (who sure is mentioned a lot on this topic) and Livesteam--why? You're really that concerned about someone being banned for some petty comment?
Read Reaper's posts in this thread to see the shamefulness that is PC.
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Old 11-19-2012, 09:35 AM   #266
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Read Reaper's posts in this thread to see the shamefulness that is PC.
Yeah, not seeing it there.

Its really pretty ridiculous to attach a negative connotation ("PC") to the 'act' of not using racial/ethnic slurs.
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Yeah, not seeing it there.

Its really pretty ridiculous to attach a negative connotation ("PC") to the 'act' of not using racial/ethnic slurs.
If you look, it was his reasoning. Particularly, on why it's okay to do to whites.
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Old 11-19-2012, 09:42 AM   #268
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If you look, it was his reasoning. Particularly, on why it's okay to do to whites.
What words do you find offensive in regards to white people?

Cracker?
Honky?
white trash?
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Yeah, not seeing it there.

Its really pretty ridiculous to attach a negative connotation ("PC") to the 'act' of not using racial/ethnic slurs.
I'm not against banning racial slurs at all. I'm not sure why you have that impression. One of the few clear rules we've had on this site forever is that obvious racial slurs aren't tolerated. I have no problem with that. I just want them to be made as obvious as possible as we creep toward prohibiting more and more of them. And I don't think we should ban marginal slurs for one group if we aren't doing it across the board.

The PC part comes into play when people assume racism where it's not explicitly present and when people have a lower tolerance threshold for words that aren't clearly the types of racial slurs that we ban here. For example, we clearly ban people for abusive use of the word ****er (aka the n-word, in case you don't know what the filtered result means). But it's not so clear that we'd ban someone for use of the word "injun" (unless maybe if it was abusively directed at oldandslow or one of our other known American Indian / Native American posters, but even then I'm not sure).
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I have posted a lot about the unnecessary personal attacks on this board. Just because its DC doesn't mean you are allowed to insult to just insult.

We can get in peoples faces, tell them their ideas or opinions are really stupid, idiotic etc be as harsh as you desire. But IMHO we can and should refrain from personal attacks. Attack the idea/position, not the person.
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