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Old 11-17-2012, 06:58 AM  
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Racial Slurs

We're having some posts being reported for the use of racial slurs in this forum. While it is widely known that there is some racism that goes on in this forum, those users have found a way to dance around the issue enough that the majority of moderators of this website have deemed the behavior fine for now.

It's really not okay to me at all. I don't believe that people of color should be subjected to that shit over political affiliations. That said, I'm a firm believer in a majority consensus so it is what it is at this point.

That said, overtly racial slurs will result in bannings. It is a bullet point in the TOS of this website, and not much is out of bounds. One user has already been banned, and another one has been warned. If you insist on trying to dance around racist comments, please be prepared for a vacation if you use a term that is deemed racist by the moderators. Thanks in advance for your cooperation.
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Old 11-20-2012, 07:59 PM   #571
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Old 11-20-2012, 08:01 PM   #572
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Of course. Vail likes to poke his antagonists where it causes them to react. Many of those same people do the same thing. The difference is that they like to hide behind the skirts of the mods because they are "fortunate" enough that their hot buttons receive special protection for some arbitrary reason (not just here, but in our society in general).
He may do that but his reputation is the same in the Lounge as it is over here with a different group of people.

As far as hiding behind the mods are you suggesting there is a political bias going on?
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Old 11-20-2012, 08:07 PM   #573
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The guideline is, "If you can't stand on top of a table at a bar and say it, then don't say it here".
By that reasoning, calling someone a bitch should be bannable.

I absolutely can stand on top of a table at a bar and belt out any racial epithet I please, and the reaction would likely be the same as if KC native stood on a table at a bar and called Livesteam a bitch. Actually, having seen pictures of both KC native and Livesteam, I would probably stand a much better chance of winning a fight against whatever random patron took offense than native would against LS. I mean, native is a little rolly poly, and LS looks like a pretty big dude.

Of course, the bars I go to would toss someone out for standing on top of a table and saying that they are having a wonderful time, so the standard is kind of a non-starter in that regard.

Now, if you want to have a guideline along these lines that actually makes sense, you could say something along the lines of: "There are certain hot-buttons that are not to be pushed. These include insulting of posters' race, ethnicity, etc. The moderators will use their judgement in responding to posts flagged as being offensive. If a mod wouldn't feel comfortable saying your remark to a group of strangers in a bar, expect a ban/warning/whatever."

I'm just riffing here. I really don't give a shit about this, but my boxing coach just canceled on me tonight, and I'm sitting on a bunch of energy that I was planning on blowing through.
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Old 11-20-2012, 08:10 PM   #574
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Old 11-20-2012, 08:13 PM   #575
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I'm relatively sure that if I stood on a bar table and called a bunch of heterosexual men "bitches," I wouldn't have a very nice rest of the day.

What's the difference?
One is a rule. One is not. Haven't I answered this 7 times already?
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Old 11-20-2012, 08:14 PM   #576
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Of course. Vail likes to poke his antagonists where it causes them to react. Many of those same people do the same thing. The difference is that they like to hide behind the skirts of the mods because they are "fortunate" enough that their hot buttons receive special protection for some arbitrary reason (not just here, but in our society in general).
His antagonists, yeah right.

So what you're saying is that poor vailpass unfortunately likes to throw around the ethnic/racial slurs--he just can't help it. So, its just an unfortunate thing, and its not his fault if ethnic/racial slurs aren't acceptable to most people.
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Old 11-20-2012, 08:14 PM   #577
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He may do that but his reputation is the same in the Lounge as it is over here with a different group of people.

As far as hiding behind the mods are you suggesting there is a political bias going on?
He does the same thing to everyone on this board. I wouldn't expect the Lounge to be any different. I'm certainly not suggesting a political bias. My perception is that BRC is liberal, Phobia is conservative, Flop is liberal, Austin is conservative, and DaFace is liberal.

People just tend to get hypersensitive about certain issues. Vail knows this, and he picks at scabs. I'm not defending him. I'm not particularly sensitive to this type of insult, and I think that blacks, hispanics, etc. are fully capable of defending themselves when it comes to mild "racial" jabs on an anonymous message board, but I recognize what he's doing all the same.

The mods have decided to nip it in the bud, and I have no beef with that.
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Old 11-20-2012, 08:16 PM   #578
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One is a rule. One is not. Haven't I answered this 7 times already?
Yes, you have. And I think that, based on your criteria, a no-calling-a-heterosexual-man-a-bitch rule should be implemented.

It's offensive.
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Old 11-20-2012, 08:16 PM   #579
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By that reasoning, calling someone a bitch should be bannable.

I absolutely can stand on top of a table at a bar and belt out any racial epithet I please, and the reaction would likely be the same as if KC native stood on a table at a bar and called Livesteam a bitch. Actually, having seen pictures of both KC native and Livesteam, I would probably stand a much better chance of winning a fight against whatever random patron took offense than native would against LS. I mean, native is a little rolly poly, and LS looks like a pretty big dude.

Of course, the bars I go to would toss someone out for standing on top of a table and saying that they are having a wonderful time, so the standard is kind of a non-starter in that regard.

Now, if you want to have a guideline along these lines that actually makes sense, you could say something along the lines of: "There are certain hot-buttons that are not to be pushed. These include insulting of posters' race, ethnicity, etc. The moderators will use their judgement in responding to posts flagged as being offensive. If a mod wouldn't feel comfortable saying your remark to a group of strangers in a bar, expect a ban/warning/whatever."

I'm just riffing here. I really don't give a shit about this, but my boxing coach just canceled on me tonight, and I'm sitting on a bunch of energy that I was planning on blowing through.
You don't have to follow a guideline. It's me offering you advice. You do have to follow a rule or you might not be here. Is that still confusing?
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Old 11-20-2012, 08:17 PM   #580
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His antagonists, yeah right.

So what you're saying is that poor vailpass unfortunately likes to throw around the ethnic/racial slurs--he just can't help it. So, its just an unfortunate thing, and its not his fault if ethnic/racial slurs aren't acceptable to most people.
I'm not saying that at all. He knows exactly what he's doing. I think he gets a kick out of seeing liberals swell up with phony outrage. I recognize it when vailpass is trying to get a reaction by using thinly-veiled racial taunts, and I recognize it when those who don't like him express phony outrage.
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Old 11-20-2012, 08:18 PM   #581
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Yes, you have. And I think that, based on your criteria, a no-calling-a-heterosexual-man-a-bitch rule should be implemented.

It's offensive.
Should we lock down most uncivil exchanges or just "bitch"?
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Old 11-20-2012, 08:19 PM   #582
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You don't have to follow a guideline. It's me offering you advice. You do have to follow a rule or you might not be here. Is that still confusing?
I was never confused by any of this.
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Should we lock down most uncivil exchanges or just "bitch"?
Well that depends. Are attacks on sexual orientation against the rules, or is that kosher?
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Old 11-20-2012, 08:20 PM   #584
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Should we lock down most uncivil exchanges or just "bitch"?
Apparently any slur that one finds offensive. I'd like to add slurs of nationality to the list, actually. I know that I crawl into a corner and cry whenever someone makes fun of my teeth or calls me a limey.
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Apparently any slur that one finds offensive. I'd like to add slurs of nationality to the list, actually. I know that I crawl into a corner and cry whenever someone makes fun of my teeth or calls me a limey.
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