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Old 11-17-2012, 05:58 AM  
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We're having some posts being reported for the use of racial slurs in this forum. While it is widely known that there is some racism that goes on in this forum, those users have found a way to dance around the issue enough that the majority of moderators of this website have deemed the behavior fine for now.

It's really not okay to me at all. I don't believe that people of color should be subjected to that shit over political affiliations. That said, I'm a firm believer in a majority consensus so it is what it is at this point.

That said, overtly racial slurs will result in bannings. It is a bullet point in the TOS of this website, and not much is out of bounds. One user has already been banned, and another one has been warned. If you insist on trying to dance around racist comments, please be prepared for a vacation if you use a term that is deemed racist by the moderators. Thanks in advance for your cooperation.
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Old 11-20-2012, 07:22 PM   #586
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Old 11-20-2012, 07:23 PM   #587
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Hispanic isn't a race. It's an ethnic group (loosely).
You seem to be fairly intelligent. I'm surprised to see you make this mistake. The term "race", when it is applied to human beings in this context, means nothing scientific whatsoever. It has no basis in biology. It has no basis in anthropology. It's a product of pseudoscience, created to justify slavery and general mistreatment of the powerless. It means nothing other than "group", and only carries that meaning due to common usage. That's it. The term "ethnicity" actually does have a meaning. It refers to a group of people with a common national or cultural tradition. The only correct statement here would be:

Race is a misnomer. We use the term "racism" to acknowledge negative expressions towards, among other things, ethnic groups.
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Old 11-20-2012, 07:24 PM   #588
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Well that depends. Are attacks on sexual orientation against the rules, or is that kosher?
We don't have any rules against that other than filtering a couple of offensive slurs which we've found to be sufficient to the best of my knowledge.
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Old 11-20-2012, 07:25 PM   #589
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You seem to be fairly intelligent. I'm surprised to see you make this mistake. The term "race", when it is applied to human beings in this context, means nothing scientific whatsoever. It has no basis in biology. It has no basis in anthropology. It's a product of pseudoscience, created to justify slavery and general mistreatment of the powerless. It means nothing other than "group", and only carries that meaning due to common usage. That's it. The term "ethnicity" actually does have a meaning. It refers to a group of people with a common national or cultural tradition. The only correct statement here would be:

Race is a misnomer. We use the term "racism" to acknowledge negative expressions towards, among other things, ethnic groups.
Soooo, where was this mistake?
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Old 11-20-2012, 07:26 PM   #590
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You seem to be fairly intelligent. I'm surprised to see you make this mistake. The term "race", when it is applied to human beings in this context, means nothing scientific whatsoever. It has no basis in biology. It has no basis in anthropology. It's a product of pseudoscience, created to justify slavery and general mistreatment of the powerless. It means nothing other than "group", and only carries that meaning due to common usage. That's it. The term "ethnicity" actually does have a meaning. It refers to a group of people with a common national or cultural tradition. The only correct statement here would be:

Race is a misnomer. We use the term "racism" to acknowledge negative expressions towards, among other things, ethnic groups.
Take it up with the United States' government. They don't think that Hispanic is a race either.
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Old 11-20-2012, 07:27 PM   #591
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We don't have any rules against that other than filtering a couple of offensive slurs.
Fantastic. So if vail comes back and makes some insensitive comments towards UP, he doesn't have to worry about getting banned again?
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Old 11-20-2012, 07:28 PM   #592
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Take it up with the United States' government. They don't think that Hispanic is a race either.
Are you referring to documents meant for general consumption?
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Old 11-20-2012, 07:30 PM   #593
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Soooo, where was this mistake?
The term "race" is meaningless. It only survives due to common usage.
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Old 11-20-2012, 07:33 PM   #594
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We're having some posts being reported for the use of racial slurs in this forum. While it is widely known that there is some racism that goes on in this forum, those users have found a way to dance around the issue enough that the majority of moderators of this website have deemed the behavior fine for now.

It's really not okay to me at all. I don't believe that people of color should be subjected to that shit over political affiliations. That said, I'm a firm believer in a majority consensus so it is what it is at this point.

That said, overtly racial slurs will result in bannings. It is a bullet point in the TOS of this website, and not much is out of bounds. One user has already been banned, and another one has been warned. If you insist on trying to dance around racist comments, please be prepared for a vacation if you use a term that is deemed racist by the moderators. Thanks in advance for your cooperation.
There is no excuse for racial slurs at all. Is there any excuse for any slurs?
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Old 11-20-2012, 07:34 PM   #595
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He does the same thing to everyone on this board. I wouldn't expect the Lounge to be any different. I'm certainly not suggesting a political bias. My perception is that BRC is liberal, Phobia is conservative, Flop is liberal, Austin is conservative, and DaFace is liberal.

People just tend to get hypersensitive about certain issues. Vail knows this, and he picks at scabs. I'm not defending him. I'm not particularly sensitive to this type of insult, and I think that blacks, hispanics, etc. are fully capable of defending themselves when it comes to mild "racial" jabs on an anonymous message board, but I recognize what he's doing all the same.

The mods have decided to nip it in the bud, and I have no beef with that.
I agree with your post so you know, I know, the mods know, and vail knows what he is doing so there shouldn't be any huge outcry or gnashing of teeth when people like vail get banned.

I will add that I think the mods here do a fantastic job and people need to chill the **** out when they do take action. There is no reason for people to freak out when someone gets banned for a week etc..it is just the Internet
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The term "race" is meaningless. It only survives due to common usage.
And yet it is an actual word with an actual definition, and donger used it correctly.
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There is no excuse for racial slurs at all. Is there any excuse for any slurs?
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Are you referring to documents meant for general consumption?
If you consider the US census to be a general document, yes.
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Old 11-20-2012, 07:42 PM   #599
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You seem to be fairly intelligent. I'm surprised to see you make this mistake. The term "race", when it is applied to human beings in this context, means nothing scientific whatsoever. It has no basis in biology. It has no basis in anthropology. It's a product of pseudoscience, created to justify slavery and general mistreatment of the powerless. It means nothing other than "group", and only carries that meaning due to common usage. That's it. The term "ethnicity" actually does have a meaning. It refers to a group of people with a common national or cultural tradition. The only correct statement here would be:

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Great point. Sad thing is I took a test today on taxonomy.
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I agree with your post so you know, I know, the mods know, and vail knows what he is doing so there shouldn't be any huge outcry or gnashing of teeth when people like vail get banned.

I will add that I think the mods here do a fantastic job and people need to chill the **** out when they do take action. There is no reason for people to freak out when someone gets banned for a week etc..it is just the Internet
I'm certainly not freaking out over it. I'm not even mildly bothered by it. That said, there have been numerous examples of mods letting personal biases steer their decisions when it comes to banning/not banning posters, and the board is worse off for it IMO. Because of this, I understand why people get up in arms over bannings.

Of course, if this were MY board, the over-arching rule would be "I will do whatever the **** I please, and I won't always be fair or consistent, so go **** yourselves if you have a problem with it." I think that phobia would like to have that rule, but it's not his board (and that burns him up sometimes). I think that Flop would LOVE to have that rule (mostly so he could stir up drama, and credit him for owning up to it), but it's not his board either.
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