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Old 11-17-2012, 05:58 AM  
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Racial Slurs

We're having some posts being reported for the use of racial slurs in this forum. While it is widely known that there is some racism that goes on in this forum, those users have found a way to dance around the issue enough that the majority of moderators of this website have deemed the behavior fine for now.

It's really not okay to me at all. I don't believe that people of color should be subjected to that shit over political affiliations. That said, I'm a firm believer in a majority consensus so it is what it is at this point.

That said, overtly racial slurs will result in bannings. It is a bullet point in the TOS of this website, and not much is out of bounds. One user has already been banned, and another one has been warned. If you insist on trying to dance around racist comments, please be prepared for a vacation if you use a term that is deemed racist by the moderators. Thanks in advance for your cooperation.
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Old 11-20-2012, 08:44 PM   #646
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HOLY CRAP I think this is a first.

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Old 11-20-2012, 08:45 PM   #647
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Ummmm - Hootie IS back JUST LIKE shtsprayer came came. They both circumvent bans by registering new accounts.
See this is what I don't understand. You have a long time rule yet you don't enforce it why is that? I am honestly just curious and I don't want you to ban shtsprayer or Hootie.
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Old 11-20-2012, 08:46 PM   #648
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I thought that Greaseball was a slur for an outlaw biker type.
I don't know about that, but (a) I don't think bikers are a CP protected class so slurs agains them are probably OK even if they'd kick your ass in real life for using them, and (b) I always thought of "greaseball" as being a slur against Italians (my ethnicity) which means if anyone calls me one, Phobia and Flopnuts are going to rush to my rescue.
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Old 11-20-2012, 08:46 PM   #649
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Old 11-20-2012, 08:48 PM   #650
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HOLY CRAP I think this is a first.

Someone better print screen this post quick

Lol I did.
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Old 11-20-2012, 08:48 PM   #651
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Shit I didn't even notice that. Very nice.
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Old 11-20-2012, 08:48 PM   #652
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I don't know about that, but (a) I don't think bikers are a CP protected class so slurs agains them are probably OK even if they'd kick your ass in real life for using them, and (b) I always thought of "greaseball" as being a slur against Italians (my ethnicity) which means if anyone calls me one, Phobia and Flopnuts are going to rush to my rescue.
I'm guessing that it was the preceding phrase, along with greaseball, and the overall context, that added up to the ruling.
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Old 11-20-2012, 08:49 PM   #653
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I concede this point. Greaseball is indeed Hispanic slur.
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Old 11-20-2012, 08:49 PM   #654
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You think black people should shrug their shoulders if a white person calls them a ****er?
Yep.

Seems to me that unless that's exactly how you feel about yourself, then you go on with your day, because that guy obviously wasn't speaking to you. He was just spewing in your general direction.

If that is how you feel about yourself, then you've obviously met a very perceptive person and you ought to try to get to know him. He might have some other important truths to pass on.

Look, I can choose to walk in that pile of shit right there or go around it. It's my day, it's my nose and it's my choice.
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Old 11-20-2012, 08:54 PM   #655
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Yep.

Seems to me that unless that's exactly how you feel about yourself, then you go on with your day, because that guy obviously wasn't speaking to you. He was just spewing in your general direction.

If that is how you feel about yourself, then you've obviously met a very perceptive person and you ought to try to get to know him. He might have some other important truths to pass on.

Look, I can choose to walk in that pile of shit right there or go around it. It's my day, it's my nose and it's my choice.
Interesting take. What if your kids were with you and he called your kids that? Same thing?

I don't know at some point there is certain things you can't walk away from unless they are holding a gun and you are not.
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Old 11-20-2012, 08:54 PM   #656
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Really, isn't it just a little ridiculous to expect a complete list of words and word combinations, especially when the context is also important?

Do you have kids? Did you have a definitive written list of rules or did you expect some exercise of common sense?
No, because the rule used to only be (or be enforced) that the most obvious of slurs drew a ban (e.g. ****er). At one point person of Hispanic heritage was added after a dustup between Otter and Taco John. Keeping a list keeps overzealous mods from going wild while still preventing serious breaches of civility.

Now that we have easy anonymous reporting coupled with mods who have grown more activist, we see an expansion of the rule against racial slurs that exaggerates the disconnect between that rule and other forms of incivility (e.g. bitch, ****, pillowbiter, shitstain, and on and on).
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Interesting take. What if your kids were with you and he called your kids that? Same thing?

I don't know at some point there is certain things you can't walk away from unless they are holding a gun and you are not.
My kids are Latinos. Give it your best shot. They know exactly what they are and exactly what they aren't.
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Old 11-20-2012, 08:58 PM   #658
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What kind of frustration makes people go crazy with this standard of decency on this board?
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Old 11-20-2012, 08:59 PM   #659
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See this is what I don't understand. You have a long time rule yet you don't enforce it why is that? I am honestly just curious and I don't want you to ban shtsprayer or Hootie.
We have dozens of everyday participants on this site who were banned at one time. Some people learn their lesson and some people get more adept at just staying under the radar. Either way is a win for the mods. It's pretty tough to lock the fort down for somebody who really, really wants to be here. Clay is a pretty good example of that. So if they learn and improve, we could really care less. But if they continue the same behaviors that got them banned in the first place, they're gone again and we don't even really have to justify it to anybody because our TOS says that if you've been banned then we can ban you at any time for any reason we choose.
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Old 11-20-2012, 09:03 PM   #660
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What kind of frustration makes people go crazy with this standard of decency on this board?
You seem to be the frustrated one. The rest of us are having a discussion here.
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