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Old 11-19-2012, 07:50 PM  
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Old 11-19-2012, 10:01 PM   #16
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Old 11-19-2012, 10:18 PM   #17
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What in the world are you on about?
He's refusing to accept anything other than a zero-sum game.
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Old 11-19-2012, 10:19 PM   #18
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Capitalism in all its glory is a competition.

Some people will do very well, a lot of folks will do okay, and some folks will just do terrible.

This is unavoidable. This is the nature of competition. Everybody can't win. So we can shrug and say **** it, and suffer what will I'm sure will be nothing but happy, sunny side effects of a poverty class with third world finances, or we can provide some sort of safety net so that people aren't living in squalor.

That does mean some will abuse the system. Unavoidable. But when a basic life of work provides you a better quality of life than a life of living off food stamps, the light inside us will almost always guide us to productivity.

That about sums it up.
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He's refusing to accept anything other than a zero-sum game.

Capitalism / economics aren't really a zero sum game.
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Old 11-19-2012, 10:22 PM   #20
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liberal logic right there... it's not a 50/50, win/lose thing. Everybody CAN win, it's just that some win more than others. It's not just one battle that's fought, it's thousands of battles daily!
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What in the world are you on about?

errr...Animal Farm, rather obviously.
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Old 11-19-2012, 10:24 PM   #21
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I agree with her quote.
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Old 11-19-2012, 10:29 PM   #23
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Capitalism / economics aren't really a zero sum game.
Yes, I know, that's what I was implying.
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Old 11-19-2012, 10:49 PM   #24
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Capitalism in all its glory is a competition.

Some people will do very well, a lot of folks will do okay, and some folks will just do terrible.

This is unavoidable. This is the nature of competition. Everybody can't win. So we can shrug and say **** it, and suffer what will I'm sure will be nothing but happy, sunny side effects of a poverty class with third world finances, or we can provide some sort of safety net so that people aren't living in squalor.

That does mean some will abuse the system. Unavoidable. But when a basic life of work provides you a better quality of life than a life of living off food stamps, the light inside us will almost always guide us to productivity.
Pretty much this.

And--What about the children? Seriously, what about them? Take them all away from their crappy parent(s) and have the state raise them 100%? Or try to keep the families together with the parent(s) maintaining some responsibility for the kids, even if they are leeching some off the system? There's no perfect solution, but you can't say "Let 'em rot" to the kids too, can you?
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A lady who pretended to be native American?
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A lady who pretended to be native American?
Are you really trying to stir up those muddy waters again?
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errr...Animal Farm, rather obviously.
yeah, I got that but his post was just another of his Difleckshuns...
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is it racist if I called her a Chief?
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is it racist if I called her a Chief?
nope, sounds good to me...

i think she may actually have some indian heritage, but not so much as a chief...

now that i think about it, calling someone a chief these days could be considered insulting...
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