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Old 11-20-2012, 08:37 PM  
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Electricians: Chandelier went out but it's getting current

Couple of months ago our family room chandelier went out cold turkey. I'm just now getting time to get to it.

I originally thought it was the switch as I bought one of those non contact voltmeters and it went crazy at t he chandelier. Took off the dimmer and it went crazy inside of the switch box also.

Replaced the switch at Lowes and NOTHING. It still went crazy at the chandelier.

Thought, "that's odd." replaced one bulb and nothing. Tried the same bulb in another room's chandelier and it worked. Any ideas? I'm hurting here for suggestions.
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Old 11-20-2012, 10:16 PM   #31
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Ugh... so electrician needs to be called with a 20 foot ladder?
And informed of height. Most of us don't carry ladders that tall on our trucks. You sure its 20 foot?
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Old 11-20-2012, 10:20 PM   #32
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How many romex cables are in the switch box? Or, does the switch have a black and a white wire? Or two black wires? If you take the two wires off the switch and touch them together (or jumper across them), does the fixture light up?
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Old 11-20-2012, 10:23 PM   #33
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And informed of height. Most of us don't carry ladders that tall on our trucks. You sure its 20 foot?
More like 15.
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Old 11-20-2012, 10:23 PM   #34
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How many romex cables are in the switch box? Or, does the switch have a black and a white wire? Or two black wires? If you take the two wires off the switch and touch them together (or jumper across them), does the fixture light up?
one black wire and one white wire with a ground cutoff still inside the 1 romex cable.
I won't blow something if I touch them together?
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More like 15.
12 foot ladder would be sufficient. Still should be informed when you call em. Use angies list a lot of bad electricians out there.
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one black wire and one white wire with a ground cutoff still inside the 1 romex cable.
I won't blow something if I touch them together?
That's what he's testing.
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That white wire will be your hot the black your switched hot. You won't blow anything if you touch them together. If you replaced switch with no change then touching them won't help.
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one black wire and one white wire with a ground cutoff still inside the 1 romex cable.
I won't blow something if I touch them together?
The white *should* be the hot (feed) at the switch, the black *should* be the switch leg back to the fixture. You won't blow anything up, but you'll get a small arc that might startle you. All this does is bypass the switch to eliminate that as a possible problem. I asked about the wiring because it could have been fed from the switch (two romexes) with the neutral tied together in the switch box, but it doesn't look like that's the case. If bypassing the switch and it still doesn't light, the yeah, you've probably lost the neutral (grounded conductor).
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The white *should* be the hot (feed) at the switch, the black *should* be the switch leg back to the fixture. You won't blow anything up, but you'll get a small arc that might startle you. All this does is bypass the switch to eliminate that as a possible problem. I asked about the wiring because it could have been fed from the switch (two romexes) with the neutral tied together in the switch box, but it doesn't look like that's the case. If bypassing the switch and it still doesn't light, the yeah, you've probably lost the neutral (grounded conductor).
So the neutral is the ground wire? the one that's tucked back inside the Romex?
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So the neutral is the ground wire? the one that's tucked back inside the Romex?
You don't have a neutral at all on that switch box
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