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Old 12-01-2012, 08:52 AM  
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Shooting at Arrowhead- Chiefs player commits suicide

No details yet. Just came across on the news.

edit: Sources say the player is Jovan Belcher. Police have yet to confirm.

An unnamed Kansas City Chiefs player has committed suicide at the team facility and authorities are on the scene, the police confirmed to ESPN on Saturday morning.

Local reports say police are operating with the belief the player fatally shot his girlfriend at a house before driving to Arrowhead Stadium and killing himself at around 8 a.m local time. The Associated Press reported the player's age to be 25.

"We can confirm that there was an incident at Arrowhead earlier this morning," the Chiefs said in a statement. "We are cooperating with authorities in their investigation."

There were no other injuries at the team facility, police said.

The Chiefs (1-10) were preparing to host the Carolina Panthers on Sunday.

The NFL has told the Panthers to travel as planned to Kansas City on Saturday, the Charlotte Observer has reported, citing interim general manager Brandon Beane.


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Old 12-02-2012, 12:01 PM   #1966
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have they started talking about why he might have done this?

hearing everything that people say about him, it seems extremely out of character. What could have caused him to do such a thing?
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Old 12-02-2012, 12:02 PM   #1967
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Perhaps. In my mind, he killed himself less out of remorse for his previous act and more out of despair for the end of a career and impending jail time. A lot of it.
Could be but you still have to be out of your mind to kill yourself regardless of the reason.

Suicide is not a logical act unless you are experiencing terminal pain. I imagine at that point he may have been feeling what he considered terminal pain.
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Old 12-02-2012, 12:04 PM   #1968
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have they started talking about why he might have done this?
He killed the mother of his 3 month old child.

No one cares.

**** HIM.

Let's concentrate on how we can support this kid any way we can...
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Old 12-02-2012, 12:04 PM   #1969
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Old 12-02-2012, 12:04 PM   #1970
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With the amount of security at Arrowhead, how long is it before video surveillance footage of the suicide is leaked on the internet? Incredibly ****ed up thought
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Old 12-02-2012, 12:04 PM   #1971
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have they started talking about why he might have done this?

hearing everything that people say about him, it seems extremely out of character. What could have caused him to do such a thing?
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Old 12-02-2012, 12:13 PM   #1972
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I keep thinking once Pioli got his thoughts together, sitting at his desk. Saying to himself " my job is safe because of this and I got those f***ing hillbillies off my ass and everyone will feel sorry for me and this will be my scapegoat this year. I do feel bad for the guy, but I am I the only one thinking this?
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Had this exact thought as things were unfolding yesterday and I felt kinda slimy thinking that way for a while, but realized that that is exactly the case. You're spot on because if Clark couldn't nut up and can his ass for the atrocities up to yesterday's atrocity, he won't want it on his conscience that he fired a guy that's dealing with witnessing a type of horrific act that Pioli did. So you're not alone.
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Old 12-02-2012, 12:21 PM   #1973
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With the amount of security at Arrowhead, how long is it before video surveillance footage of the suicide is leaked on the internet? Incredibly ****ed up thought
I wondered that too. I don't know if it will be leaked, but I assumed there's lots of cameras there (front of the offices for sure to see who's coming and going) and it surely is recorded.
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Old 12-02-2012, 12:27 PM   #1974
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Reaper, come on.

You really think every concussion is getting reported? These guys run into each other with enough force that it emulates running your car into a brick wall at 45 MPH.

Pretty sure there are tons and tons and tons of minor concussions on a weekly basis that go undiagnosed.
I think that Reaper pretty much nailed it but I suppose that it's possible that a guy could be suffering from a minor concussion that was unreported or not diagnosed properly.

That said, I find it highly unlikely that Belcher was as concussed to the degree of what was stated in the article, yet cleared to play each and every week for nearly 4 years.

I think it's more likely that the person reporting that he was constantly concussed wasn't medically trained and was confusing the alleged drug and alcohol abuse with concussions.

Unless he shot himself in the heart, I doubt that information will ever be confirmed or denied.
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Kansas City police now telling KC media members that Jovan Belcher shot his girlfriend NINE times -- all in front of his mother.
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Old 12-02-2012, 12:50 PM   #1976
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Kansas City police now telling KC media members that Jovan Belcher shot his girlfriend NINE times -- all in front of his mother.
NINE times?
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Kansas City police now telling KC media members that Jovan Belcher shot his girlfriend NINE times -- all in front of his mother.
Well that should put an end to any sympathy anyone is feeling towards him.
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TRAGEDY IN KANSAS CITY



Jovan Belcher, a starting linebacker for the Chiefs, murdered the mother of his child shortly before 8 a.m. Saturday. He hopped in his car, drove to the Kansas City Chiefs practice facility, thanked Romeo Crennel and Scott Pioli — and shot himself in the head in front of his coach and general manager around 8:10 a.m.


Within two hours, the NFL instructed the Carolina Panthers to travel to Kansas City as scheduled in preparation for Sunday’s noon kickoff. By 3 p.m., the Chiefs announced that Crennel and team captains had decided to play Sunday’s game as planned.


Short of terrorist attack and weather disaster, nothing slows the NFL.
A 25-year-old kid gunned down his 22-year-old girlfriend in front of his mother and three-month-old child, and all he could think to do in the immediate aftermath is rush to thank his football coach and football employer. Belcher’s last moments on this earth weren’t spent thanking the mother who raised him or apologizing to the child he would orphan. His final words of gratitude and perhaps remorse were reserved for his football gods.


It should come as no surprise that Crennel, Chiefs players, Pioli, owner Clark Hunt and NFL commissioner Roger Goodell quickly agreed not to delay Sunday’s football congregation at Arrowhead Stadium.



Football is our God. Its exaggerated value in our society has never been more evident than Saturday morning in my adopted hometown. There’s just no way this game should be played.


Twenty-eight hours after witnessing one of his starting linebackers take his life, Crennel will stand on the sideline as young men play a violent game. Twenty-eight hours after one of their best friends killed the mother of his child and himself, Chiefs players will take the field and play a violent game.


Football is a game of emotion. Football is a game in which the coaches and players preach about treating each other as family.
How can they play Sunday? Why should they?


Belcher and his girlfriend didn’t die in a car accident 30 minutes away from Arrowhead Stadium. This isn’t some tragedy Crennel and Pioli heard about. Belcher crashed his car through the gates of the Chiefs practice facility. He pointed a gun to his head in front of Crennel and Pioli. He killed himself within a quarter of a mile of Arrowhead Stadium, where the players and coaches work.


I just don’t get it. And I’m not trying to vilify the Chiefs for choosing to play Sunday’s game. It shouldn’t be their decision. Roger Goodell should’ve made this call. Crennel, Pioli and Kansas City players are justifiably still in a state of shock.


You may argue that we all grieve differently. You may argue that playing the game is the best way to move on and heal. You may argue that canceling or delaying the game would serve no purpose and would be unfair to the fans who traveled to Kansas City to see Cam Newton and the Panthers play the Chiefs.


I would argue that your rationalizations speak to how numb we are in this society to gun violence and murder. We’ve come to accept our insanity. We’d prefer to avoid seriously reflecting upon the absurdity of the prevailing notion that the second amendment somehow enhances our liberty rather than threatens it.


How many young people have to die senselessly? How many lives have to be ruined before we realize the right to bear arms doesn’t protect us from a government equipped with stealth bombers, predator drones, tanks and nuclear weapons?


Our current gun culture simply ensures that more and more domestic disputes will end in the ultimate tragedy, and that more convenience-store confrontations over loud music coming from a car will leave more teenage boys bloodied and dead.


In the coming days, Belcher’s actions will be analyzed through the lens of concussions and head injuries. Who knows? Maybe brain damage triggered his violent overreaction to a fight with his girlfriend. What I believe is, if he didn’t possess/own a gun, he and Kasandra Perkins would both be alive today.


IN MEMORIAM

We remember those who have died in the sports world in 2012.

That is the message I wish Chiefs players, professional athletes and all of us would focus on Sunday and moving forward. Handguns do not enhance our safety. They exacerbate our flaws, tempt us to escalate arguments, and bait us into embracing confrontation rather than avoiding it.


But we won’t. We’ll watch Sunday’s game and comfort ourselves with the false belief we’re incapable of the wickedness that exploded inside Jovan Belcher Saturday morning
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I'm sure it's wrapped in some thread somewhere, but I didn't get to see the start of the game.

Was there any moment of silence for the victims, or how did the Chiefs handle this?
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