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Old 12-01-2012, 08:52 AM  
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Shooting at Arrowhead- Chiefs player commits suicide

No details yet. Just came across on the news.

edit: Sources say the player is Jovan Belcher. Police have yet to confirm.

An unnamed Kansas City Chiefs player has committed suicide at the team facility and authorities are on the scene, the police confirmed to ESPN on Saturday morning.

Local reports say police are operating with the belief the player fatally shot his girlfriend at a house before driving to Arrowhead Stadium and killing himself at around 8 a.m local time. The Associated Press reported the player's age to be 25.

"We can confirm that there was an incident at Arrowhead earlier this morning," the Chiefs said in a statement. "We are cooperating with authorities in their investigation."

There were no other injuries at the team facility, police said.

The Chiefs (1-10) were preparing to host the Carolina Panthers on Sunday.

The NFL has told the Panthers to travel as planned to Kansas City on Saturday, the Charlotte Observer has reported, citing interim general manager Brandon Beane.


http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/86...-team-facility

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Old 12-02-2012, 09:23 PM   #2386
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Old 12-02-2012, 09:23 PM   #2387
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It will be interesting to hear what the mother says, assuming she ever speaks publicly about it. Of course, other than to satisfy the public's morbid curiosity, there's really no need for her to do so.
I am pretty sure the police will release that information.
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Old 12-02-2012, 09:27 PM   #2388
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He shot her 9 times.

In front of his mother, no less.
Does that sound like the act of a person in sane mind and body? Somebody that had never been in trouble before in their life?
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Old 12-02-2012, 09:28 PM   #2389
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I am pretty sure the police will release that information.
Yea rarely do you have a living eye witness to something like this.
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Old 12-02-2012, 09:28 PM   #2390
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He shot her 9 times.

In front of his mother, no less.
Count to 3 out loud right now.


Pretty quick huh?


That's how long it would take to fire 9 shots.

The number of times he shot her has ZERO relevance unless he stopped for a few seconds then went in for a kill shot or had to reload or whatever. I certainly don;t know since I wasn't there and no facts are available. Kinda my point.

To be clear I am not making excuses, Hell it could be far WORSE than what many are assuming. I am just admitting that I have no clue and not enough facts to make any kind of reasonable guess as to the circumstances.
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Old 12-02-2012, 09:29 PM   #2391
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I am pretty sure the police will release that information.
Why should they? Open and shut case. Dead and dead. And why should she want to talk about it? I mean, if it was my kid who hosed somebody right in front of me and then later blew his brains out, I don't really think I'd want to talk to the media about it.
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Old 12-02-2012, 09:29 PM   #2392
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I'm sure this point has been made here already.. but I'll state it again just in case. WE don't have any clue what the facts are here. Since Belcher committed suicide there will be no trial and it is likely all the facts will never come to light..
If Belcher's estate still has $, then there could be a wrongful death suit where those facts might come out.
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Old 12-02-2012, 09:32 PM   #2393
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Its just hard for me to comment to detail on this without fully knowing everything. Just a sad situation
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Old 12-02-2012, 09:32 PM   #2394
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Why should they? Open and shut case. Dead and dead. And why should she want to talk about it? I mean, if it was my kid who hosed somebody right in front of me and then later blew his brains out, I don't really think I'd want to talk to the media about it.
I could be wrong but I imagine she gave a statement to the police as part of the report and that is available as public record now.

I could be wrong on that.
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Old 12-02-2012, 09:33 PM   #2395
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If Belcher's estate still has $, then there could be a wrongful death suit where those facts might come out.
Ah, very true... but I doubt it since there isn't really anyone to benefit except the child who already should. Only way this happens is if there is serious animosity between the parents, of course, who knows.

My guess is that the media coverage will die down and very little reliable information will become available. Which honestly is fine, none of us have a "right" to know and I'm sure it's better for the families not to have this drug out.
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Old 12-02-2012, 09:34 PM   #2396
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If you are referring to leaving his locker intact yea I have no issue with it.

I have yet to see one person say he didn't do something terrible. How you chose to feel about the circumstances or how you process what happened afterwards is up to you.

You chose to go total piece of shit route right out the gate.

I chose to wonder WTF happened that caused this. Regardless of that fact I feel he bears responsibility for his actions alive or dead. I am just not certain what that entails yet.

See the difference?
I'm comfortable condemning the actions of a murderer, and I'm going to remain so.

If there's some evidence that he didn't actually murder her, then that's different. But blaming it on rage/handguns/unspecified addictions/ as the cause, as opposed to his choice, is unfortunately, something I hear too much every day.
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And these are people (the players) who literally know the families involved including JC's wife. Yet people here who have never met the families or personally know anyone involved know the best way for them to grieve for the horrendous situation.

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Ah, very true... but I doubt it since there isn't really anyone to benefit except the child who already should. Only way this happens is if there is serious animosity between the parents, of course, who knows.

My guess is that the media coverage will die down and very little reliable information will become available. Which honestly is fine, none of us have a "right" to know and I'm sure it's better for the families not to have this drug out.
Ah, you underestimate the greed of NFL agents.
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Ah, you underestimate the greed of NFL agents.
I totally didn't think about that aspect... yuck.
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