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Old 12-01-2012, 07:52 AM  
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Shooting at Arrowhead- Chiefs player commits suicide

No details yet. Just came across on the news.

edit: Sources say the player is Jovan Belcher. Police have yet to confirm.

An unnamed Kansas City Chiefs player has committed suicide at the team facility and authorities are on the scene, the police confirmed to ESPN on Saturday morning.

Local reports say police are operating with the belief the player fatally shot his girlfriend at a house before driving to Arrowhead Stadium and killing himself at around 8 a.m local time. The Associated Press reported the player's age to be 25.

"We can confirm that there was an incident at Arrowhead earlier this morning," the Chiefs said in a statement. "We are cooperating with authorities in their investigation."

There were no other injuries at the team facility, police said.

The Chiefs (1-10) were preparing to host the Carolina Panthers on Sunday.

The NFL has told the Panthers to travel as planned to Kansas City on Saturday, the Charlotte Observer has reported, citing interim general manager Brandon Beane.


http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/86...-team-facility

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Old 12-01-2012, 10:02 AM   #406
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If Pioli and Crennel were indeed the witnesses, then my God, I feel for them.
Yep. Say what you will about their football accumen, but they have to see that every night before they go to sleep for the rest of their lives. I feel for both of them.

Belcher may have been a great guy up until this point, but he did a real job of just completely ****ing up many people's lives on his selfish way out. Hopefully they all piss on his grave.
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Old 12-01-2012, 10:02 AM   #407
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ESPN doesn't get it. They make it sound like he had head injuries and the league should've had mental health resources available etC.


Pffff. Like other have said I think he shot his woman, the freaked out and drove to work to talk to his other family since he has no family here. Saw police roll up because the girls mother was in the house when it happened and called them....he saw them and freaked then killed himself.

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Old 12-01-2012, 10:02 AM   #408
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All of this new information makes it sound premeditated IMO
What "new information"???? I haven't heard anything that says premeditated. No one knows anything yet.
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Old 12-01-2012, 10:02 AM   #409
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What a horrible tragedy. My condolences to the friends and family of both Mr. Belcher and his girlfriend, and to everyone else affected by these acts of violence.
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Old 12-01-2012, 10:03 AM   #410
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Jesus, what a shocking and incredibly sad situation....how do you play football after hearing something like this?
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Old 12-01-2012, 10:03 AM   #411
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Just another situation where football is more important than real life. Goodell orders the panthers to fly down kansas city after coaches, GM and potential players just witnessed a murder suicide. Goodell is a scumbag rat.
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Old 12-01-2012, 10:03 AM   #412
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I was pretty numb to it until I just told my wife the story.

Then I choked up a bit.

Killing your GF in front of your own mother?

Driving to the practice facility and saying your goodbyes before blowing your head off in front of coaches?

Leaving behind a 2 month old?

****ed up.
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Old 12-01-2012, 10:03 AM   #413
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That is true, the players may want to play so they can have a moment of their current lives be normal. More times than not after a tragedy players want to play for this reason alone.

The very day after? I doubt it. There heads most likely will not be in the game. There is injury potential galore tomorrow if the NFL allows this game to be played.
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Old 12-01-2012, 10:03 AM   #414
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According to a KCTV-Ch. 5 report in Kansas City, Belcher shot and killed his girlfriend at home around 8 a.m. CT, then drove to the team facility, where he later shot and killed himself in the parking lot of the team complex. Earlier reports indicated that Belcher argued with some Chiefs coaches and Kansas City general manager Scott Pioli before committing suicide.
If this is true, it sure doesn't sound like Pioli was trying to de-escalate the situation. While this is ultimately Belcher's responsibility, and it is a tragedy no matter how you slice it, if Pioli and the coaching staff were indeed arguing with him instead of trying to get him to calm down and turn himself in, they need to go NOW.
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Old 12-01-2012, 10:03 AM   #415
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If Pioli and Crennel were indeed the witnesses, then my God, I feel for them.
They will never be able to unsee Belchers selfish act. I want them both gone next year. But, thats about their job performance. On a personal human being level, they deserve our sympathy and support overcoming this selfish act.
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Old 12-01-2012, 10:03 AM   #416
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Why don't you go grab a cup of go **** yourself there tiger. And that's a valid concern. People that show up dressed up in their anti-pioli, chiefs sthcik need to reevaluate the situation.
I don't need to reevaluate shit.
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Old 12-01-2012, 10:03 AM   #417
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Horrific situation and I'm not exactly sure how they can just go on business as usual Sunday. Anybody that show's up in black funeral clothes sthtick needs to GTFO though.
the impending death of this franchise has reached a new level -- imo they are tied to each other.

What a colossal shitstorm 2012 has been for the KC Chiefs.
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Old 12-01-2012, 10:04 AM   #418
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If this is true, it sure doesn't sound like Pioli was trying to de-escalate the situation. While this is ultimately Belcher's responsibility, and it is a tragedy no matter how you slice it, if Pioli and the coaching staff were indeed arguing with him instead of trying to get him to calm down and turn himself in, they need to go NOW.
Dude *facepalm*
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Old 12-01-2012, 10:04 AM   #420
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This.

I can't facepalm enough.
Read my damn post. There's no doubt that the movement (and more importantly, the poor performance of the team) contributed to a stressful environment for everyone on the team, Belcher included. Clearly he had other major issues, but those issues are often manifested when other things in a person's life are not going well. I have a hard time believing that a fan revolt is a complete non-factor in any player's emotional well-being.
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