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Old 12-01-2012, 08:52 AM  
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Shooting at Arrowhead- Chiefs player commits suicide

No details yet. Just came across on the news.

edit: Sources say the player is Jovan Belcher. Police have yet to confirm.

An unnamed Kansas City Chiefs player has committed suicide at the team facility and authorities are on the scene, the police confirmed to ESPN on Saturday morning.

Local reports say police are operating with the belief the player fatally shot his girlfriend at a house before driving to Arrowhead Stadium and killing himself at around 8 a.m local time. The Associated Press reported the player's age to be 25.

"We can confirm that there was an incident at Arrowhead earlier this morning," the Chiefs said in a statement. "We are cooperating with authorities in their investigation."

There were no other injuries at the team facility, police said.

The Chiefs (1-10) were preparing to host the Carolina Panthers on Sunday.

The NFL has told the Panthers to travel as planned to Kansas City on Saturday, the Charlotte Observer has reported, citing interim general manager Brandon Beane.


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Old 12-01-2012, 02:10 PM   #1186
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Old 12-01-2012, 02:10 PM   #1187
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There are no excuses for murdering someone. I just think people need to show some sympathy to individuals who go over that edge. I have no sympathy towards cold-blooded murderers and I don't think Jovan was one.
I don't either. The law does take crimes of passion into consideration. Some of my judgment on this would depend on intent and premeditation. Why does a person with rage issues or violent temperment buy or obtain a hand gun? Is it with the intent to intimidate or threaten? I think that could be considered premeditated, IMO.
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Old 12-01-2012, 02:10 PM   #1188
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The Kansas City Police Department has released the name of the victim. Her name is Kassandra Perkins. Age 22.
So young. Had her whole life in front of her. Such a senseless waste.
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Old 12-01-2012, 02:10 PM   #1189
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The difference between this and all those other situations in sports history...is it wasn't just a domestic disturbance. The guy went to the team facility and did it right in front of the front office and coaching staff of the team. I certainly don't know of any other situation like this. The head coach and GM of this team just watched one of their players kill himself. That's brutal. I don't know if you can compare it to anything.
This is very true, good point.

Hopefully the report I read where he walked away was accurate I'd never want to witness what you see in the movies...

It would haunt my dreams.
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Old 12-01-2012, 02:11 PM   #1190
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I'm not a lawyer. I just think that something was clearly off with Javon. I'm not saying it's OK that he killed someone, or that he's somehow excused. He took his own life, which probably means he couldn't live with himself anymore, who knows what he was going through. I just don't think he deserves to be treated like some cold-blooded murderer and be condemned in a fashion Dave and BRC were condemning him in.
Totally agree.
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Old 12-01-2012, 02:11 PM   #1191
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who is he/she?
I'll leave that for him to release.
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Old 12-01-2012, 02:11 PM   #1192
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The person who originally commented about it said it was a rumor.

it has always been discussed as a rumor

anyone taking it as a fact is choosing to make that distinction

we know very few facts about the entire situation
Yeah, I just found the post and you did specify that it was speculation. A few others are running with it as fact. Apologies to you...

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Nobody condones his actions but if rumors are true it's not as crazy as you might think. l


following is complete rumor/conjecture/hypothesis:


1. Girlfriend decides, for whatever reason, that today is the day she tells Belcher that 'their' child is not biologically his.

2. Belcher loses it and in his anger and grief grabs a gun and shoots her

3. after his grief/rages subsides he looks down at what he's done.

He's killed the woman he loves ... he career is over ... his life(as he knows it) is over ... he's going to jail for 20+ years. Depression sets in and he decides he doesn't deserve or want to live with it.

So he decides to say his goodbyes and take his own life. The Chiefs are his only family or maybe his only family close enough to visit.

drives to Arrowhead, says 'Goodbye' and as soon as Police arrive and force the timing of the decision, he pulls trigger.


just a possibility
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Old 12-01-2012, 02:11 PM   #1193
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The person who originally commented about it said it was a rumor.

it has always been discussed as a rumor

anyone taking it as a fact is choosing to make that distinction

we know very few facts about the entire situation
Done in poor taste.
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Old 12-01-2012, 02:12 PM   #1194
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JFC, I had a friend kill another friend in front of me accidentally with a gun. I had another friend kill himself over a girl in front of me.

I worked in an ER/ICU for 9 years taking care of failed suicides and saw the pain that the family had to endure.
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Old 12-01-2012, 02:12 PM   #1195
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I wasn't trying to use a metaphor, just saying we've seen this same tragedy play out with a more famous player...and it was probably a more cowardly crime
The premeditated killing of your unborn child and girlfriend to avoid losing money and this crime of passion fueled by something we do not know about yet are very different. The only similarity is somebody ended up dead.
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Old 12-01-2012, 02:12 PM   #1196
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I don't know if this was accurate or not but I was told this morning the Chiefs don't even have a psychiatrist/counselor on their staff for the players.
I think that is a fireable offense on a 1-10 team. Pathetic, if true.
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don't make me ........... (too soon? )
Honestly, I believe his identity was already mentioned in this thread.

And, yes. Way too soon.
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He apparently told Pioli and Crennel thank you for all they've done. WOW. Shocked, stunned, etc all the above. Just can't let all this bottle up. Talk to someone to help. I had a friend kill himself a few years ago. So this is a little de ja vu
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