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Utter sadness in Kansas City

By Bill Williamson | ESPN.com

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This has been on my mind all day.

Still, after traveling 1,000 miles, I have yet to reach any comprehension. I have nothing profound to say about the horrible tragedy this morning in Kansas City that has galvanized the NFL world, other to say I have the same feeling you probably have -- utter sadness.

I awoke this morning to a text saying that a Kansas City Chiefs player murdered his girlfriend and then shot himself at the teamís facility. The text said the player involved was linebacker Jovan Belcher.

Like so many at ESPN, I immediately worked the phones in search of more details of this mind-numbing event. As I traveled to Denver, I thought about what I was going to write in this piece.

What could I say about this event that no one else is feeling or saying?

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Chiefs fansJohn Rieger/US PresswireChiefs fans place a sign outside the team's practice facility, site of Jovan Belcher's suicide.
Thus, I want to join the masses and express my thoughts and grief for the family of Belcherís victim, Kasandra M. Perkins, who died at 22, and the couple's infant daughter. Lives were ended; others were ruined. So terrible.

I also feel for bad for Scott Pioli and Romeo Crennel. The Chiefs' general manager and the head coach were talking to Belcher, according to police, just before the player walked away and shot himself.

What a terrible and emotional event to witness. This day will be with these men for the rest of their lives; they will never be able to shake it. Pioli and Crennel went to work Saturday morning to put the finishing touches on another game week in a miserable season. Then they were thrust into the middle of a crisis involving a young man they had grown to care for.

I know Pioli and Crennel are not popular figures in Kansas City these days because of the teamís 1-10 season. There is a strong chance Chiefs ownership makes wholesale changes in a month.

What happens professionally will take its course.

I expect Kansas City fans to loudly support their hurting team Sunday when the Chiefs host Carolina at Arrowhead Stadium. It should go without saying that I hope there are no airplane flyovers imploring for people to be fired, no fan ďblackoutsĒ at the game. The voice of the understandably angry Chiefs fan has been heard and it has been noted.

Sunday will be about beginning the healing process and honoring those left behind from this senseless crime. Be a Chiefs fan Sunday. At the core, thatís what you are.

I know some people donít understand why or how the game can be played. But the Chiefsí coaches and team captains reportedly played a major role in the decision to go ahead with it. If the Chiefs want to play, I think we can all support that choice.

Iíve been asked a lot Saturday about what Belcher was like. I didnít know him. I never met him or interviewed him. I knew he was an overachieving player who ended up starting 44 career games after going undrafted.

I know his agent, Joe Linta, very well. He has a well-deserved reputation for representing solid-citizen types. He had always spoken highly of Belcher to me. Linta expressed disbelief Saturday.

Disbelief. Thatís all you can feel when something so unspeakable happens.
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Old 12-01-2012, 09:50 PM   #46
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I've talked to several people in kc today. Not one of them is sad. What a bunch of ****ing bullshit. Just because some murderer pops himself. We are supposed to feel sadness? I have compassion for the girl. But not one **** was give for belcher. He.sucked.on and off the field.
Yeah I'm not sad.
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I've talked to several people in kc today. Not one of them is sad. What a bunch of ****ing bullshit. Just because some murderer pops himself. We are supposed to feel sadness? I have compassion for the girl. But not one **** was give for belcher. He.sucked.on and off the field.
yeah, I got a text this morning, popped on to ChiefsPlanet...heard the story

and at no point was I sad about Belcher dying (after I heard what had happened)

if you murder someone in cold blood you don't deserve compassion...I do, however, disagree he took the coward's way out. I think if you murder someone and then you want to take justice into your own hands by off'ing yourself...that's fine, that's your right
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I've talked to several people in kc today. Not one of them is sad. What a bunch of ****ing bullshit. Just because some murderer pops himself. We are supposed to feel sadness? I have compassion for the girl. But not one **** was give for belcher. He.sucked.on and off the field.
I feel pretty bad for Crennel and Pioli. And both of them are apparently going to tough it out and do their jobs tomorrow at a game.

That's about it, though. It's upsetting that I woke up this morning with a high opinion of Jovan Belcher and as soon as I opened up my laptop that honor I put to his name instantly vanished. But I'm over it. I never knew the guy outside of some dude running around a field on Sundays.
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Old 12-01-2012, 09:58 PM   #49
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I feel pretty bad for Crennel and Pioli. And both of them are apparently going to tough it out and do their jobs tomorrow at a game.
I don't. They have a job to do.. paid millions to do it. Its not like they are sacrificing to defend our.country. **** them. Do your job.
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I don't. They have a job to do.. paid millions to do it. Its not like they are sacrificing to defend our.country. **** them. Do your job.
Developing a deep relationship with an individual over four years only to watch him end his own life after he did an unspeakable act isn't in the job description to earn those millions of dollars
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I don't. They have a job to do.. paid millions to do it. Its not like they are sacrificing to defend our.country. **** them. Do your job.
Nevermind watching that 25 yr old kid shoot himself in the head the day before.
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Old 12-01-2012, 10:01 PM   #52
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Nevermind watching that 25 yr old kid shoot himself in the head the day before.
Nevermind watching your buddy get shot in combat.
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Nevermind watching your buddy get shot in combat.
How do you not understand that these things are so very different?!?!?
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All of us as Chiefs fans only have a few courses of action after the events today.

We can stay the course, keep on complaining about the team, management, ownership. Everything will return to normal over time. Pick up right where we left off in a few days.

We can let this event divide us further, make us more combative, more hostile towards the team and each other. See it as another step down in the death of a franchise.

We can let this event bring us as fans, as a team, and as a city together. To borrow a phrase, we could "Be the change" that we want to see from the organization.

Which option do you think we'll choose?
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How do you not understand that these things are so very different?!?!?
Exactly. Watching a.murderer shot himself is less traumatizing than losing someone with honor.
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I feel pretty bad for Crennel and Pioli. And both of them are apparently going to tough it out and do their jobs tomorrow at a game.

That's about it, though. It's upsetting that I woke up this morning with a high opinion of Jovan Belcher and as soon as I opened up my laptop that honor I put to his name instantly vanished. But I'm over it. I never knew the guy outside of some dude running around a field on Sundays.
Yeah, this is kind of how I feel.

I don't care how much money they're paid. Crennel and Pioli went through hell today. I would expect them to be there tomorrow because the rest of the team will be there, and you want to be part of that. But it's got to be tough.

As for Belcher, I can only shake my head. He was a good story of a small-time free agent who earned his way into a starting job. Now...that reputation is gone. It's easy for us to just see these guys as cartoon characters on our screen, and frankly I kind of like it that way. When real life intrudes it's often for bad reasons.
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Exactly. Watching a.murderer shot himself is less traumatizing than losing someone with honor.
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All of us as Chiefs fans only have a few courses of action after the events today.

We can stay the course, keep on complaining about the team, management, ownership. Everything will return to normal over time. Pick up right where we left off in a few days.

We can let this event divide us further, make us more combative, more hostile towards the team and each other. See it as another step down in the death of a franchise.

We can let this event bring us as fans, as a team, and as a city together. To borrow a phrase, we could "Be the change" that we want to see from the organization.

Which option do you think we'll choose?
I think the crowd (what there is of it) will be awesome tomorrow. Going forward... It'll be consistently awesome when the wins start rollin' in.

Still the most passionate fan base in the NFL. We're rabid, give us something to chew on.
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He absolutely is talking down to us.

This Belcher tragedy hit this community right in the nuts. I don't know about all of you, but I felt absolutely numb this morning when I heard the news. And I don't even live in Kansas City. For those that do and were planning on going to tomorrow's game, OF COURSE they weren't going to wear black or carry scathing signs. It's common sense. There is no person on planet earth who would deem tomorrow the right time to continue with the anti-Pioli activities.

What does this fat ****er say?

"I expect Kansas City fans to loudly support their hurting team Sunday when the Chiefs host Carolina at Arrowhead Stadium. It should go without saying that I hope there are no airplane flyovers imploring for people to be fired, no fan ďblackoutsĒ at the game. The voice of the understandably angry Chiefs fan has been heard and it has been noted. Sunday will be about beginning the healing process and honoring those left behind from this senseless crime. Be a Chiefs fan Sunday. At the core, thatís what you are."

He sounds just like a parent who watched a severe punishment issued on a child and said, "Now, I hope this doesn't happen again, okay?"

**** Williamson.
Agreed with most of this. I live in South Carolina and on my way to work I was just in a Deja Vu kind of daze. Dont even really care win nor lose. Just feel numb and horrible. Im speechless
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Exactly. Watching a.murderer shot himself is less traumatizing than losing someone with honor.
Umm... no comment.
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