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Old 12-04-2012, 12:48 PM  
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New York Post NFL writer on Clark - "Didnít strike me as the sharpest guy around."

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@ArrowheadPride He just didn’t strike me as the sharpest guy around. Seems kind of overmatched.
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Old 12-05-2012, 09:13 PM   #331
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nobody is hating on rich kids. clark hasn't done well. in fact, he's really pissed a lot of fans off. so, there's that.
Pioli has actually pissed off the fans
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Old 12-05-2012, 09:14 PM   #332
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and so, what? kraft is "lucky" ???? well then, clark is unlucky.

I think kraft worked his ass off to become the owner of the pats -- he worked for that.

clark? no. he has failed as an NFL owner also. so, there's that.
Kraft has worked, for sure. He has gotten lucky but you kinda need to be win in sports.
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Old 12-05-2012, 09:19 PM   #333
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Kraft has worked, for sure. He has gotten lucky but you kinda need to be win in sports.
can you tell me how robt kraft was able to afford to buy and operate the new england patriots? where did kraft get his $$$$???
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Old 12-05-2012, 09:19 PM   #334
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I see the results being because he is a smart owner that got his HC/GM hire right. I don't think its about his actual knowledge of football. Oh, and Tom Brady.



That is the one grey area I think is justifiable with getting on Clark about. Him not knowing anything about Arrowhead Anxiety ect. I still think Clark deserves this off season before we panic but I would have liked him to be hovering around Pioli just a little bit more.

That being said, if you are going to credit Kraft for being smart enough to let BB do his thing, Clark did the same with Pioli. Just happens that BB isn't the idiot that Pioli is. Oh, and Tom Brady.
Good points, but he didn't need to wait this long to say things aren't going to stay the way they are. He's got an office and Pioli's not in a position, and hasn't been since year-2, to argue against some changes. He could have called SP and TH into his office and told SP that he's heard a lot of shit, and rumors notwithstanding, events like the gum wrapper and blinds and other such crap has lead him to think that the balance of power is officially changing. He may not tell them that TH was getting final say, but he sure could have said that he'd be the final decision maker (and he'd confer with TH just prior to announcing his final decision). Hindsight is 20/20, but living in Dallas sure made seeing all of this a LOT harder.

Had he tried that, what would SP had been able to do, go to the union?
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Old 12-05-2012, 09:23 PM   #335
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Old 12-05-2012, 09:23 PM   #336
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and so, what? kraft is "lucky" ???? well then, clark is unlucky.

I think kraft worked his ass off to become the owner of the pats -- he worked for that.

clark? no. he has failed as an NFL owner also. so, there's that.
The Patriots didn't win a title for the first 8 years of Kraft's ownership of the team.
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Old 12-05-2012, 09:24 PM   #337
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Kraft had nothing to do with Brady. Nor did Belichick or Pioli.

The guy who got the Pats Tom Brady was Dick Rehbein, their QBs coach, who gave Brady glowing reviews.
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Old 12-05-2012, 09:24 PM   #338
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When Clark took over, he wanted to totally change the culture, which was probably needed, but not to the extent that happened.

The culture that was going down, obviously wasn't working so Clark made a change, wholesale changes to the franchise from the top down.

He could have stayed status quo and lined his pockets. But he didn't.
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Old 12-05-2012, 09:27 PM   #339
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and so, what? you are here to say clark is not responsible for this?

pioli wasn't here the last time a GM "pissed off the fans" but hey, there was a clark in the mix.

how many more staff changes will it take before you get pissed at the ownership?

I've already reached my threshold. clark is a crap owner in my book. he threw away the QB position with Matty C and in turn wasted years, he threw away the catalyst of positive change when he fired Haley and he is on board with the crapfest that is Scott Pioli, who is the engineer of this train wreck.
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Old 12-05-2012, 09:29 PM   #340
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The Patriots didn't win a title for the first 8 years of Kraft's ownership of the team.
Well, setting aside the fact that team went from the cellar to a playoff team that made a SB appearance, plus the fact he did actually win all those championships, what is your point? That I should hold off on clark until year eight?
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Kraft had nothing to do with Brady. Nor did Belichick or Pioli.

The guy who got the Pats Tom Brady was Dick Rehbein, their QBs coach, who gave Brady glowing reviews.
well, don't you wish clark had a "Dick Rehbein" on the staff. That is my point. Clark has made some choices here, it is certainly debatable whether those choices are good, but his record and your disappointment for this team are not debatable. All I'm saying is, clark is no robt kraft. he's not even lamar. hell, the hunt fam became rich from a guy named HL Hunt folks. clark's grand dad.
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Well, setting aside the fact that team went from the cellar to a playoff team that made a SB appearance, plus the fact he did actually win all those championships, what is your point? That I should hold off on clark until year eight?
My point, you dipshit, is that you dumbasses keep pointing to Kraft as the standard.

He didn't find immediate success.

It took time, and the luck of stumbling onto an elite QB.
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My point, you dipshit, is that you dumbasses keep pointing to Kraft as the standard.

He didn't find immediate success.

It took time, and the luck of stumbling onto an elite QB.
be honest for once -- do you think clark hunt can put a NFL winner together? ever? How long would you give him?

I am not using kraft as the standard, just one example. hell, this started with the whole JJ comparison.
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be honest for once -- do you think clark hunt can put a NFL winner together? ever? How long would you give him?

I am not using kraft as the standard, just one example. hell, this started with the whole JJ comparison.
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be honest for once -- do you think clark hunt can put a NFL winner together? ever? How long would you give him?

I am not using kraft as the standard, just one example. hell, this started with the whole JJ comparison.
the GM puts the team together. Not the owner
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