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Old 12-05-2012, 09:28 PM  
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Qb Drafting Guessing game.

The stuff posted about who scouts like and who they don't, got me thinking about predraft rankings.

So lets play a little game. I tried it in another thread but it kinda got buried.

I think this will be a good visual for some of the "don't draft x QB early, he isn't Luck etc" fans.

So, I will post a pre draft scouting report and you guys try and guess the player.

Put this one in the other thread so we will start with it.

POSITIVES: Athletic passer with the physical skills and mental intangibles needed to lead a franchise at the next level. Quickly sets up in the pocket, sells ball fakes and technically very sound. Poised under the rush, steps up to avoid defenders and works to keep the play alive. Patient, buys time in the pocket and waits for receivers to come free. Does an excellent job with his reads and natural looking off the safety. Does not make mental errors and throws the ball away rather than toss the errant pass. Times the short and intermediate throws well, as receivers rarely wait for the ball out of their breaks. Outstanding vision and immediately spots the open receiver. Possesses a quick release, live arm and zips the outs or gets the ball downfield. Throws with touch. Sits in the pocket and takes a big hit in order to get the pass off. Fleet-footed and picks up yardage with his legs when necessary.

NEGATIVES: Though accurate, lacks top pass placement and has receivers extending vertically to pull the ball out of the air. Must improve his accuracy down the field. Lacks top footwork releasing the ball off a three step drop. Lacks pocket stature.

ANALYSIS: A physically gifted passer with a great understanding of the position, _____ has made himself one of the nation's top quarterback prospects the past two seasons. May not fit every system, but should quickly flourish in the NFL for a timing offense that does not throw the ball down the field with regularity. Offers a good amount of upside and is a coachable player who should continually improve his game.

PROJECTION: Early First Round

Who is it?


Here's another one.

A vocal leader in the huddle. Arm strength is not spectacular but strong enough. Not a threat to run the ball , but scrambles extremely well. Solid with his technique.
Weaknesses
Accuracy is the number one concern. 19 interceptions in 14 games is unacceptable for a first round pick. Most interceptions are a result of short arming passes


All QB's listed are currently in the league.

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Old 12-05-2012, 11:07 PM   #106
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Old 12-05-2012, 11:08 PM   #107
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Old 12-05-2012, 11:09 PM   #108
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Has a well-built, strong and athletic frame with good overall muscle definition, long arms, large hands, high-cut with wide shoulders and thick thighs Has outstanding arm strength and size for his position Shows good overall foot quickness and agility to step out of the pocket and buy time for his receivers Has the lower body power to break tackles Demonstrates above average body control and balance driving back from center and shows good accuracy firing the ball up the seams Has a fluid throwing motion, much like the Colts' Peyton Manning

Made good strides in recognizing protections and is capable of calling audibles Not the type who needs the glory and attention most quarterbacks relish Determined field leader with ice water running through his veins Will play through pain and does a great job of standing tall in the pocket Has good balance in his drop-back and generally moves in control, showing a nice rhythm while planting his feet through his delivery When he sits back and scans the field, he can pick apart the zones

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Lacks the change of direction agility to make the initial tackler miss Has a good grasp of the passing game, but sometimes gets too confident in his arm strength and will try to force the ball into tight spots Quiet sort who seems to shy away from the media attention

Shows good fluidity and quickness in his drive back from center, but is not a threat to run with the ball. ..Can buy time for his receivers when rolling out, but appears a little stiff in his hips when having to escape pocket pressure for too long Tends to get a bit impatient in the pocket and showed too much confidence in his arm strength, firing the ball right into coverage Will hold the ball too long waiting for his targets to get open, resulting in a sack or costly fumble Can make all the throws, but needs to take a little of his zip off his shorter area tosses Cool under pressure, but will get impatient at times and force the ball in tight areas Not the type who can get into the second level with his feet, as he is a little stiff in his hips changing direction.
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Old 12-05-2012, 11:09 PM   #109
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Old 12-05-2012, 11:10 PM   #110
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Positives:

Has a well-built, strong and athletic frame with good overall muscle definition, long arms, large hands, high-cut with wide shoulders and thick thighs Has outstanding arm strength and size for his position Shows good overall foot quickness and agility to step out of the pocket and buy time for his receivers Has the lower body power to break tackles Demonstrates above average body control and balance driving back from center and shows good accuracy firing the ball up the seams Has a fluid throwing motion, much like the Colts' Peyton Manning

Made good strides in recognizing protections and is capable of calling audibles Not the type who needs the glory and attention most quarterbacks relish Determined field leader with ice water running through his veins Will play through pain and does a great job of standing tall in the pocket Has good balance in his drop-back and generally moves in control, showing a nice rhythm while planting his feet through his delivery When he sits back and scans the field, he can pick apart the zones

Negatives:

Lacks the change of direction agility to make the initial tackler miss Has a good grasp of the passing game, but sometimes gets too confident in his arm strength and will try to force the ball into tight spots Quiet sort who seems to shy away from the media attention

Shows good fluidity and quickness in his drive back from center, but is not a threat to run with the ball. ..Can buy time for his receivers when rolling out, but appears a little stiff in his hips when having to escape pocket pressure for too long Tends to get a bit impatient in the pocket and showed too much confidence in his arm strength, firing the ball right into coverage Will hold the ball too long waiting for his targets to get open, resulting in a sack or costly fumble Can make all the throws, but needs to take a little of his zip off his shorter area tosses Cool under pressure, but will get impatient at times and force the ball in tight areas Not the type who can get into the second level with his feet, as he is a little stiff in his hips changing direction.
Totally makes me think Flacco
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Sorter gets it.

I deleted a reference to "if he goes over 260 pounds" because THAT would have been obvious.
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I deleted a reference to "if he goes over 260 pounds" because THAT would have been obvious.
The not in the NFL and thick thighs gave it away, along with the Peyton Manning comparison.
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