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Old 12-06-2012, 11:33 PM  
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I know I am probably screwed but need advice

Make the situation quick, wanted my deck redecked and found a guy on craigslist that does it. His companies name is "brown can do" and he had been around for a long time and had done work for a family member several years ago. Anyway everything seemed legit.

With that said he came out to the house, he was a little rough dress wise but seemed to have his stuff together and at least talked the talk to make you feel better about it.

Said he would order the composite boards but needed a deposit for the materials ($2500)

I gave him the money and let me know a few days later than those boards were on backorder so I gave some other ideas and he has since not got back to me.

Here is the question ( I know I was a dumb ass for even giving him a deposit I get it) but I intentially didn't sign the check as my safety net and if he would have asked me about it I was going to tell him that as soon as I see an order I will sign it.

Needless to say he signed my check and cashed it and I have not hear from him since and its been a month.

Here is the question should I

1) Go to small claims court? he may not have a penny to piss in and would loose in a landslide

2) Go to my bank and tell them I didn't sign the check and see what happens from there?

Just curious which was would be better to go.
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Old 12-11-2012, 08:25 AM   #91
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Old 12-11-2012, 08:32 AM   #92
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You aren't gonna get money from the guy. Your best bet is hoping your bank has some fraud protection.

And don't give advances to contractors. If they say they need materials, go to their supplier and pay for materials. But the reality is, good contractors will already have a line of credit with their supplier. If they weren't able to establish a good relationship with their supplier for credit, what does that say about how they operate their business?
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Old 12-11-2012, 09:48 AM   #93
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rental issues are civil issues, cops can't do anything. this situation is close too, that makes it all the more frustrating. the forging his name makes it stand out as a criminal act.

And yet, there was the STate of Kansas, trying to track down the fraudster when THEY got burnt by his bad checks. Seemed like bullsht that they could use all their resources (incl a cop who phoned me no less!) but I couldn't rely on the same despite being owed 6x the amount.
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Old 12-11-2012, 12:20 PM   #94
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Wow. Don't work with craigslist contractors. Call 816-665-1208 if you need help on your project.

How about if we all call you and ask you if your refrigerator is running?
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Old 12-11-2012, 12:24 PM   #95
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Old 12-11-2012, 12:34 PM   #96
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You aren't gonna get money from the guy. Your best bet is hoping your bank has some fraud protection.

And don't give advances to contractors. If they say they need materials, go to their supplier and pay for materials. But the reality is, good contractors will already have a line of credit with their supplier. If they weren't able to establish a good relationship with their supplier for credit, what does that say about how they operate their business?
I have good credit with my suppliers but if I install $2k worth of material and then a client decides not to pay or that other bills are more important I'm left holding the bag. That's why I bill as we go. I'm waiting on $1800 from a project we completed in August for a friend. They decided to spend their money on some other family emergency and figured that since we were friends that I wouldn't mind waiting a few months. I don't always buy stuff from suppliers either. For example, I'm doing a $7k bathroom right now for a client who only has $4k. That means I have to buy his stuff from auctions, Habitat, or craigslist to find some bargains and compete the work when we have available holes in our schedule. I don't always work on half million dollar homes where clients have $20k sitting in their bank account to pay me. Sometimes I have to take risks with clients and no matter how well we know each other, I'm going to make every effort to cover my ass and let you cover your ass as well.

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Old 12-11-2012, 12:51 PM   #97
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On the bright side, you could probably get someone from craigslist to break his leg for $500.
Once again, why use craislist when you could likely find same on this very site and know the job would be done right?
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Old 12-11-2012, 12:57 PM   #98
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And yet, there was the STate of Kansas, trying to track down the fraudster when THEY got burnt by his bad checks. Seemed like bullsht that they could use all their resources (incl a cop who phoned me no less!) but I couldn't rely on the same despite being owed 6x the amount.

Hopefully you seized this opportunity to say 'if you scratch my back, I'll scratch yours...'
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Old 12-11-2012, 01:20 PM   #99
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Once again, why use craislist when you could likely find same on this very site and know the job would be done right?
...especially when you figure that everyone on this site is 6'4, 220 and runs a 4.45.
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Old 12-11-2012, 01:34 PM   #100
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If you are in Missouri, the Attorney General has a very good consumer fraud division, which might be interested if there is reason to believe he has scammed enough people. You could report it rather easily with a phone call or go to the AG website.
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Old 05-18-2013, 09:26 AM   #102
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I think this guy has screwed me over too. I just gave him $800 to build a wrought iron fence several weeks ago and I haven't heard from him since. What ever happened with your situation? Please contact me, I'd like to get the MO Atty general involved in this matter.
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Old 05-18-2013, 09:36 AM   #103
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I think this guy has screwed me over too. I just gave him $800 to build a wrought iron fence several weeks ago and I haven't heard from him since. What ever happened with your situation? Please contact me, I'd like to get the MO Atty general involved in this matter.
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Old 05-18-2013, 10:19 AM   #104
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What kind of dumbass gives money to people out of the blue...


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Old 05-18-2013, 10:25 AM   #105
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I think this guy has screwed me over too. I just gave him $800 to build a wrought iron fence several weeks ago and I haven't heard from him since. What ever happened with your situation? Please contact me, I'd like to get the MO Atty general involved in this matter.

Hey I will help you out just send me a money order for the $800 my name is Cash. I will be right over..
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