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Old 12-07-2012, 12:06 PM  
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*Look for former Colts executive Bill Polian to get back into the league after the season.

The grapevine says the Chiefs are the frontrunners for his services, should they part ways with Scott Pioli. Polian got his NFL start in Kansas City as a pro scout in 1978, so it would be fitting if he ended his career there. Getting back in the league will allow Polian to bring along son Chris Polian and give his career a boost.

The younger Polian became an area scout with the Falcons after being fired as general manager of the Colts. This time around though, look for Bill Polianís role to be all football. He no longer wants to be involved in all aspects of an organization.
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Old 12-07-2012, 03:47 PM   #136
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You know, I was anti-Polian, but thinking back...

He wanted to keep Peyton and trade the rights to draft Luck.

Watching Manning torch defenses this year, it makes me think the man wasn't entirely crazy. I probably would have still taken Luck, but it isn't cut and dried.
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Old 12-07-2012, 03:47 PM   #137
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Yeah, but he also had to continually play arguably a better QB (playoff wise) damn near every year.


If you take Brady out of the equation, how many do the Colts win?
Better QB or better team? Because NE always had the better team. The kicker and the defense made all the difference.

It's an interesting debate though.
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Old 12-07-2012, 03:47 PM   #138
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True.

Maybe you guys are right, maybe what Polian CAN do is identify and acquire a franchise QB. After all, that is what is most important. Maybe i can get on board with this.....but then again....he was only able to win one SB with arguably the greatest QB in the history of the game....
He is / was my first choice for GM. The Colts were always competitive. Didn't they win their division every year? He knew what the FIRST piece of the puzzel was.
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Old 12-07-2012, 03:47 PM   #139
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Jim Kelly & Peyton Manning.

How well did those teams do w/o them?

QB is everything.

If you wanna tell me the man knows how to identify a QB, then maybe you can sell me on that and you may have a case.

But that Indy roster was shit and was carried by Peyton. Everyone knew it and last year proved it.
Yes, that's what I wanna to tell you. He did draft Manning, by the way. I know in hindsight that seems like a "well, duh" decision, but at the time there were tons of smart people talking up Leaf. The Chargers traded up to #2 and said they would be happy with Manning or Leaf. That was the atmosphere, and Polian didn't blow it.

That being said, I don't believe that the rest of the roster was shit for the Bills or Colts. Seems like he's pretty good at surrounding his QBs with talent on offense, and his defenses generate a pretty good pass rush.
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Old 12-07-2012, 03:49 PM   #140
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But that Indy roster was shit and was carried by Peyton. Everyone knew it and last year proved it.
Most likely. However, I wouldn't call all of his rosters shit. He drafted some very solid players.

They had shit for QBs last year. Look how well they are playing with a rookie.

Granted, Luck is not your average rookie QB, but he's no Peyton Manning at this point.

I'm not sure how I feel about Polian. I don't hate the idea, but I'm not infatuated, either.
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Old 12-07-2012, 03:49 PM   #141
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I really dont care who the GM is. We got the hot name and its failing miserably. I want the right HC and QB. That will make it easy to build the roster around the QB because you dont have to hit on every pick because your QB can make decent guys great ie Peyton Manning and Garcon, Collie, Gonzalez, Clark..etc. I dont want a GM however that's like Pioli and his egomaniac ways. Be nice to you employees in the front office and building. A miserable work environment trickles down if you dont hit on the QB and HC
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Old 12-07-2012, 03:50 PM   #142
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Does everyone here believe that the bigger sin is not drafting a bust at QB, but passing on a star?
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He did hit on Manning picking him over Ryan LOL Leaf. Maybe he brings back Dungy i dont know. Wouldn't mind Andy Reid. He's a good coach, not great but good
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Old 12-07-2012, 03:50 PM   #144
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Yeah that's not entirely true. See the Bills and Panthers.

Besides, the Colts had a very good offensive line, great receivers and an offense built to play with a lead during Manning's prime. It wasn't all him.

Flame away...we could do worse, that's for sure.
jim kelly. kerry collins. yeah, he clearly doesn't give a shit about QB play (he inherited jim kelly, but still)
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Bills went to four Superbowls in a row under Polian.
Panthers went to NFC Championship their second year under Polian.
Colts went to two Superbowls, winning one under Polian.

The Chiefs could use one of his shit rosters right about now.
Exactly. How anyone wouldn't want this man for GM is beyond me.
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Old 12-07-2012, 04:00 PM   #146
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Exactly. How anyone wouldn't want this man for GM is beyond me.
Peyton Manning - 1 Super Bowl trophy.

1 colossal waste.
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Old 12-07-2012, 04:10 PM   #147
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Peyton Manning - 1 Super Bowl trophy.

1 colossal waste.
So, just to confirm, playing in 18 playoff games from 2000-2010 seasons, and winning 8 of them including going to two Superbowls and winning one...is a colossal waste that Polian is guilty of. (And a waste of a Hall of Fame QB that he himself drafted.)

Sign me up. I want to be bashing Polian for something similar in KC some day.
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Peyton Manning - 1 Super Bowl trophy.

1 colossal waste.
No SB trophies in 43 yrs.

I'll take it.
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Is comparing the Colts near-complete waste of Manning's career to the Chiefs completely futile franchise existence the best argument you can come up with? Because, Jesus Christ, you could hire AJ Smith using that rationale.

I'd rather have a guy with zero history than the completely overrated Polian.
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Is comparing the Colts near-complete waste of Manning's career to the Chiefs completely futile franchise existence the best argument you can come up with? Because, Jesus Christ, you could hire AJ Smith using that rationale.

I'd rather have a guy with zero history than the completely overrated Polian.
If we hire a guy with zero history I'll most likely be on board with that, too.

But with Polian I feel like we know we are getting somebody who will come in and give us the best chance of delivering a franchise QB.
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