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Old 12-07-2012, 12:06 PM  
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Bill Polian rumors start



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*Look for former Colts executive Bill Polian to get back into the league after the season.

The grapevine says the Chiefs are the frontrunners for his services, should they part ways with Scott Pioli. Polian got his NFL start in Kansas City as a pro scout in 1978, so it would be fitting if he ended his career there. Getting back in the league will allow Polian to bring along son Chris Polian and give his career a boost.

The younger Polian became an area scout with the Falcons after being fired as general manager of the Colts. This time around though, look for Bill Polianís role to be all football. He no longer wants to be involved in all aspects of an organization.
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Old 12-08-2012, 01:19 PM   #196
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In Indy, he surrounded Manning with mediocre talent and used his influence on the competition committee to create rules to maximize Manning's effectiveness.
So Manning should have more than 1 SB ring in your eyes because Polian drafted mediocre talent especially on D other than Bob Sanders and Freeney?
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Old 12-08-2012, 01:20 PM   #197
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The ONLY thing I like about Polian as our GM is that it means Pioli would be gone...
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Old 12-08-2012, 01:28 PM   #198
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I'd prefer someone getting their first shot to someone on #3, 4, 5....

I want a front office that wants to be innovators. Not retreads.
I do too


But we need a proven guy right now to right the ship
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Old 12-08-2012, 01:31 PM   #199
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So Manning should have more than 1 SB ring in your eyes because Polian drafted mediocre talent especially on D other than Bob Sanders and Freeney?
I don't know that Manning could have gotten past teams in the playoffs that could bring consistent pressure.

It was in the regular season that he really benefitted from the rules changes.
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Old 12-08-2012, 01:34 PM   #200
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I do too


But we need a proven guy right now to right the ship
No we don't.

The right hire, regardless of experience, is what we need.

It's incumbent upon Clark Hunt, and whoever he relies on for help, to do their due diligence and make the right choice, not the most popular one.

The popular choice is how we ended up with Pioli.
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Old 12-08-2012, 01:39 PM   #201
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I do too


But we need a proven guy right now to right the ship
Past results do not guarantee future outcomes.

Hire the right guy and the ship is righted. Doesn't matter how much, or how little, prior GM experience they have.
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Old 12-08-2012, 01:43 PM   #202
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I was referring more towards the fans overall feeling.


The way this regime has gone, I think Clark looks to go conservative. Not that I necessarily think he should though
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Old 12-08-2012, 01:56 PM   #203
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Bill Polian, in Buffalo, built a complete, well balanced team around Jim Kelly.

In Indy, he surrounded Manning with mediocre talent and used his influence on the competition committee to create rules to maximize Manning's effectiveness.

Buffalo Polian I'd take.
Carolina Polian I'd take.

Indy Poilian.
No thanks.
He put together good offensive talent around Manning in Indy. It's the defense that he failed at.
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Old 12-08-2012, 02:01 PM   #204
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He put together good offensive talent around Manning in Indy. It's the defense that he failed at.
IDK about that. Bethea, Bob Sanders, Brackett, Freeny, Mathis are all great players.

I'd have to review his drafts but clearly they started drafting much worse once Chris took control.

I still don't want Piolian.
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Old 12-08-2012, 02:05 PM   #205
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Who cares if Indy's defenses had issues.

Those teams won. Every year.

I know Polian will make this team competitive at the very least. If he gets the right QB we'll be competing with the top teams.

Can't really ask for more.
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Old 12-08-2012, 02:08 PM   #206
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Who cares if Indy's defenses had issues.

Those teams won. Every year.

I know Polian will make this team competitive at the very least. If he gets the right QB we'll be competing with the top teams.

Can't really ask for more.
So did vermeils teams. Sort of


Just get the qb and build the best team around him both sides of the ball and to his strengths. That's why the colts were so good. Their defense was built pretty well for the offense.


Great pass rushers that could rush once they for te lead which they did alot
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Old 12-08-2012, 02:28 PM   #207
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Polian's draft record in Indy was mediocre and he was less active in free agency than Fat Scott/Dictator Carl combined.

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Old 12-08-2012, 02:50 PM   #208
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Chiefs like to play it safe. We all know the problem, but a deeper look gets even more interesting.

Leadership:
-In the past 23 years, only 4.5 years were with a "first time" NFL head coach. 2 with Gunther, 2.5 with Haley.

QBs:
-No Kansas City drafted QB has ever led the Chiefs to a winning full season record. Ever.
-Chiefs' record behind a drafted QB? 26 Wins, 40 losses (Basically... 4 seasons)

I'm not interested in another retread. I want a first round QB, an up and comer head coach, and a GM who isn't going to rely on his network to hire a bunch of retreads.
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Old 12-08-2012, 02:55 PM   #209
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Bill Polian, in Buffalo, built a complete, well balanced team around Jim Kelly.

In Indy, he surrounded Manning with mediocre talent and used his influence on the competition committee to create rules to maximize Manning's effectiveness.

Buffalo Polian I'd take.
Carolina Polian I'd take.

Indy Poilian.
No thanks.
What rule did they create to help Manning?
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Old 12-08-2012, 03:00 PM   #210
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What rule did they create to help Manning?
Not Manning specifically, but the passing game, in general.

The illegal contact rule.
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