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Old 12-11-2012, 09:59 AM  
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2013 Kansas City Royals Repository Thread

Proposed 2013 Slogan: Tigers: They're what's for dinner
Actual 2013 Slogan: Come to Play
A better, more accurate, or alternative slogan: All in, no panic, we promise.

Dayton Moore has pushed all his chips in and is riding on King/Jack suited, hoping it comes together, he gets some good luck, and he hits the nuts by the river card. There's potential, oh yes, there's potential. There's also risk.

At the midway point, Dayton is left counting on the river card. The flop and turn didn't help him, and he's looking at the Tigers holding a pair of Queens and the Indians holding a pair of 9s. His 2013 plan hasn't failed - yet - but the odds are not in his favor.

Burning questions updates below.

Burning Questions for 2013:

1) Will the improve rotation be improved enough? Does James Shields pitch like a fringe No. 1 away from Tampa Bay? Does Ervin Santana pitch to his highest upside in his walk year? Can Jeremy Guthrie build on his strong performance as a Royal in 2012? Can Wade Davis bring his new mentality- and velocity - back to the rotation?

Midseason check-in: Yes, the rotation is certainly improved enough. Shields has pitched like a fringe No. 1 and Santana is having his best season. Guthrie has horrible peripherals but has continued to perform well at his home park and eat innings on the road. Davis brought neither his kick-ass mentality or improved velocity back to the rotation and is in Luke Hochevar/Hiram Davies territory.

2) When will Luke Hochevar be shown the door?
Midseason check-in: It appears, never, at this point. Hochevar has been solid in non-leverage situations, though pretty much every time he has been used with men on base in an inning, it has been a disaster.

3) Does Hosmer bounce back?
Midseason check-in: It took some time, but Hosmer's performance from June 1 on is probably the most encouraging thing about the 2013 season so far.
4) Can Moustakas hit for a whole season like he did in the first half of 2012?
Midseason check-in: Nope. Moustakas was god-awful, then great for about 3 weeks, then god-awful again. He has been better since he started working with Brett and Grafol but still has a long way to go.
5) Who regresses?
Midseason check-in: Welp, Alicides Escobar is not a surprising name here (though Yost's stubborn insistence on hitting him second is ridiculous). Billy Butler is a surprise. He isn't having a terrible year - still contributing a lot to the offense - but he's not hitting for the average or power he has displayed over the past several years.
6) Who plays 2B?
Midseason check-in: A whole bunch of people, and not that great. Gio is at least getting a shot, though he once again is not doing much with it.
7) Can Jeff Francoeur be at least replacement level, rather than epic horrible level?
Midseason check-in: Hahahahahahahahahahaha
8) Will Dayton Moore survive to see 2014?
Midseason check-in: Outlook uncertain. Probably still around, unless the team completely tanks in the second half and he does something foolish. My guess - he sacrifices Ned Yost this offseason and gets one more shot with a new manager in 2014.
9) Will Danny Duffy come back healthy? And if he does, is he the same, better or worse?
Midseason check-in: Yes. Velocity looks the same, and it looks likely he is the same guy as before.
10) And the big one: Has KC added enough to run down the big-money Detroit Tigers?
Midseason check-in: Doesn't look like it, does it?

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Old 12-11-2012, 08:48 PM   #166
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Maybe but its a moot point now.

Anyway, I hope you fans get to have some fun this summer. Let's have the I-75 Series II.
we'd have to have a FIRST I-75 series
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Old 12-11-2012, 08:49 PM   #167
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No way Mo our GM can expect a Calixte for a utility player. Nor anything less than a Meyer + more for any of those other pitchers you mentioned.

Kelly or Lynn maybe. For crissakes Lynn won 18 games last year.

I think DJ was talking about throwing in Kelly and Shumaker. Thats too much for me. I think Kelley would be your #2 or #3 starter. He throws in the high 90's and doesn't walk a lot of hitters. He's a top notch talent. And he's the grandson of Machine Gun Kelly. Think of the marketing.
Yeah, I'd expect more to be going St. Louis's way than Calixte in that scenario.

Seems like St. Louis will be in a good spot, with a surplus of young, power righthanders the Cardinals can dangle for a key piece.

With Calixte and Mondesi, the Royals could be in a similar spot (not now, but if both have the seasons the Royals brass think they will). SS and young, controllable SPs are some of the most valuable chips to have in excess. I could see some sort of matchup there down the road, but just a random thought.
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Old 12-11-2012, 08:50 PM   #168
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Old 12-11-2012, 08:50 PM   #169
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hey I going all cumbaya and you go all partisan.... where's that damn Derkinger call pic?
Are you really going to make me pull out the fact that Orta was then thrown out going first to third on a single by Sundberg... so the call was erased. Orta never mattered. Do I really need to go there again? I didn't think so.



Please excuse my partisanship. 27 dry years and 10 championships behind will do that I guess.
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we'd have to have a FIRST I-75 series
LOL I didn't even catch it.
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But, we are not Rivals. We aren't in the same league. Why cant we all be get along?
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Wellll it would be hard to have an I-75 series II without the both of us. It's a deal. Win-Win for everyone

But, seriously both times we won lately, we stunk it up and barely got into the playoffs. We just got hot at the right time. That could happen for the Royals too.
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But, we are not Rivals. We aren't in the same league. Why cant we all be get along?
Because we're full of jealousy and hatred. Trade us places and then ask us to be nice. Just sayin. Nothing personal.
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Are you really going to make me pull out the fact that Orta was then thrown out going first to third on a single by Sundberg... so the call was erased. Orta never mattered. Do I really need to go there again? I didn't think so.

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No fan base is more deserving.
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No fan base is more deserving.
Christ... thanks for ruining a perfectly good dead horse kicking session.
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Christ... thanks for ruining a perfectly good dead horse kicking session.
If you have been paying attention I've been giving Royal fans major props for years. How many 100 loss seasons? How many hopeless seasons have you endured? Yet, you still go out to the K and support your team. Still have the passion. Any fan should admire that just from a fan perspective. Respect from a fan to another. No homo.
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